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Re: [Mtgvenue] Australia and its encryption laws

"Deen, Glenn (NBCUniversal)" <Glenn.Deen@nbcuni.com> Thu, 10 June 2021 15:57 UTC

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From: "Deen, Glenn (NBCUniversal)" <Glenn.Deen@nbcuni.com>
To: Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch>, Jay Daley <jay@ietf.org>, "mtgvenue@ietf.org" <mtgvenue@ietf.org>
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The article is from 2018, so there’s now been several years for any actual fallout to visitors and others to occur.

In that time has there actually been any legal actions that have actually come to impact visitors to Australia?


-glenn

On 6/10/21, 1:11 AM, "Mtgvenue on behalf of Eliot Lear" <mtgvenue-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:mtgvenue-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of lear@lear.ch<mailto:lear@lear.ch>> wrote:


Jay,

Before I respond, can you clarify whether import restrictions would prevent software that people trust from visitingAustralia?  That is to say: if conference attendees show up with VPN software that we have reason to believe isn't hacked, would laptops be at risk or would people be at risk for either being arrested or turned away at the border?

Eliot
On 10.06.21 05:03, Jay Daley wrote:

In response to our recent consultation on three possible venues in Australia, we received the following comment:



Australia has the most draconian anti-encryption laws in the developed world, perhaps in the entire world.



See, for example, this BBC piece which explains that the government can require access to *all* material,

and strong encryption is effectively illegal:



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-46463029



If we meant what we said in RFC 1984 I don't see how we can meet anywhere in Australia.

I would like to know if the community agrees with this view and that Australia should be excluded as a potential meeting country so long as these laws are in place.



Jay

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