Re: [Mtgvenue] Comments on -04

Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> Tue, 31 January 2017 15:46 UTC

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On 1/31/2017 7:21 AM, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
>> {Small procedural nit:  You've raised this issue at least twice before (July
>> and November) and got quite a lot of discussion, but little-to-no supporting
>> traction.  On the average, the IETF frowns on persistently re-raising issues
>> that have been previously considered, absent new information about them.)
> I think our interpretations of the outcome of previous discussions
> (not to mention the word "considered") may differ.

Oh.  Well that would mean that we've failed to incorporate the changes 
that you got wg support for.  I apologize.

Which of the previous times your concerns were raised developed that 
support?  Please point me to the mailing list content that produced that 
agreement, and in particular please indicate what changes were agreed to.


 >  Also, in my
> experience, the IETF frowns on WG document editors waving away any
> persistent objections with condescending responses both on and off
> list.

Interesting.  I raise a very specific process concern -- including 
reference to the prior dates -- and you return with a generic (and 
undocumented) ad hominem.  Nice.

d/
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   Dave Crocker
   Brandenburg InternetWorking
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