Re: [Mtgvenue] Open issue: legal discrimination based on status/identity
Laura Nugent <lnugent@amsl.com> Thu, 26 January 2017 22:43 UTC
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From: Laura Nugent <lnugent@amsl.com>
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Let’s also keep in mind the practical realities of implementing the guidelines. Laura > On Jan 26, 2017, at 13:42, Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> wrote: > > On 1/26/2017 12:41 PM, Melinda Shore wrote: >> The "Inclusiveness" item in section 2.1 has received some >> discussion but not real resolution. To try to bring it >> to closure I'd like to ask if people feel what's in there >> is sufficient to provide guidance to the IAOC 1) in the case >> where a country implements an entrance ban on travelers >> from particular countries, and 2) in a case like the Singapore >> meeting, where there are highly discriminatory laws on the >> books that may be loosely enforced. If you don't feel >> it is sufficient to address those cases, please propose >> text. And again, this is to provide guidance to the IAOC. > > > And to save folk the lookup effort, the -04 text on this is: > >> 2. Venue Selection Objectives >> >> 2.1. Core Values >> >> Some IETF values pervade the selection process. These often are >> applicable to multiple requirements listed in this document. They >> are not limited to the following, but at minimum include: > ... >> Inclusiveness: >> We would like to facilitate the onsite or remote participation of >> anyone who wants to be involved. >> >> Every country has limits on who it will permit within its borders. >> However the IETF seeks to: >> >> 1. Minimize situations in which onerous entry regulations prevent >> participants from attending meetings, or failing that to >> distribute meeting locations such that onerous entry >> regulations are not always experienced by the same attendees >> >> 2. Avoid meeting in countries with laws that effectively exclude >> people on the basis of race, religion, gender, sexual >> orientation, national origin, or gender identity > > > > d/ > > -- > > Dave Crocker > Brandenburg InternetWorking > bbiw.net > > _______________________________________________ > Mtgvenue mailing list > Mtgvenue@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mtgvenue >
- [Mtgvenue] Open issue: legal discrimination based… Melinda Shore
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Open issue: legal discrimination b… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Open issue: legal discrimination b… Laura Nugent
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Open issue: legal discrimination b… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Open issue: legal discrimination b… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Open issue: legal discrimination b… Melinda Shore
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Open issue: legal discrimination b… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Open issue: legal discrimination b… S Moonesamy