Return-Path: X-Original-To: mtgvenue@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mtgvenue@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 432B412948F for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 15:40:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=fugue-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6_c0isv4Zrs0 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 15:40:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qt0-x233.google.com (mail-qt0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E539712962C for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 15:40:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-qt0-x233.google.com with SMTP id k15so220134107qtg.3 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 15:40:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fugue-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:in-reply-to:cc:to :references; bh=LyDKsfaacOGec593uGidWe/PfavXRS3vtgFLooo9Wbo=; b=VLrz5MBYnGUdWjllRueMrHrGxscMmmJacxrGVVoPTtyTdZus1w6Up35zeDLC9o0cXV tbTFE4w2/5zk7l3PrZG6rsUbo0wW1ba1dWx4QipuGG+BWLE9DscQKraLmNn3rDdVrPrg IM2QN3F81FAbwBb56gSQrN712C8ZxgTptYFRrB6dZOk31x8z7oIs9xibqdKKuG+BfLXa cuMozCTY2WboSWTfPKFcMbWYfuF/XIO2znbdq9PRjlXhRNe3+w+Xz70rjAOQWxFAcL6F C8Vg9kMT+55jxujeZ56oyqpQTI60+yxUFLyun+nJN+dTNCx20tErnwRz6WsHRNqtD3fl /L1A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date :in-reply-to:cc:to:references; bh=LyDKsfaacOGec593uGidWe/PfavXRS3vtgFLooo9Wbo=; b=hlrOVQ9l9MlGjNSCWCQnnu4BWnxd+jNfF7DDyrDQQ7nv0jW0GwNhZKmGzIbwJ/1r5k FynmfGoHj1UrHr2zmcijIviHGHznST2zWpWOdZIq++sUkHGKGOdmqQ1AsqtkBj/iS8cU JyvQ0PvyCOTY0ea3b0XqYutuXuFZRA0qvoHwLzCt6SsRvFOkwnkAxQaqazi26YcaBuLY SZsA6hbSDmlNZ1WxeqLN0fTvrJ2kwuofbLtDSjWB6/8aDyHCfF7WjIN3KC2xyy/rv+9/ /vX/v5uZGBfZyzadO8WAp5SeTMu1cokVEnbc7r0dwOd6kUpWiZ9+sQY4L+lGt1NN1GTu 1vAQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXIWek4cqHXTHQQhD56YxS9d0yRXMF1SoBhMrKxtMj2W0hnGG1FN8Uk0mjke0zeLug== X-Received: by 10.200.55.5 with SMTP id o5mr22521202qtb.248.1485819647072; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 15:40:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.70.104.179] ([64.94.31.206]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b1sm1555409qkc.33.2017.01.30.15.40.44 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 30 Jan 2017 15:40:45 -0800 (PST) From: Ted Lemon Message-Id: <0E900203-6558-4E8C-A166-9B1E5B36E2AE@fugue.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_21F4F18A-8DCE-4A0A-B4AB-A684A9EE3CCB" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 18:40:42 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: Dave Crocker References: <056312a7-741c-77af-8759-657aedb24f43@nomountain.net> <8e501210-5db5-c8db-5aa0-0f58a0a90d59@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) Archived-At: Cc: mtgvenue@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Mtgvenue] Where we are, post #2 X-BeenThere: mtgvenue@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for email discussion of the IAOC meeting venue selection process." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 23:40:49 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_21F4F18A-8DCE-4A0A-B4AB-A684A9EE3CCB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jan 30, 2017, at 5:49 PM, Dave Crocker wrote: > Without those words, the entry would read: >=20 > A range of attendee's > dietary requirements can be satisfied with > robust and flexible onsite service or through > access to an adequate grocery. >=20 > In editorial terms, that certainly sounds clear and meaningful. The only problem with this text is that "a range" isn't defined, and = would not be sufficient to clue in a clueless IAOC. It will do fine if = the IAOC _isn't_ clueless. I don't know if we can do much better than = this in a document of this sort, but I hope no-one imagines that this = text guarantees a successful outcome. --Apple-Mail=_21F4F18A-8DCE-4A0A-B4AB-A684A9EE3CCB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii On Jan 30, 2017, at 5:49 PM, Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> = wrote:
Without those words, the entry would = read:

       A = range of attendee's
       dietary = requirements can be satisfied with
       robust and flexible = onsite service or through
       access to an = adequate grocery.

In editorial terms, that certainly sounds clear = and meaningful.

The only problem with this text is that "a range" isn't = defined, and would not be sufficient to clue in a clueless IAOC.   = It will do fine if the IAOC _isn't_ clueless.   I don't know if we = can do much better than this in a document of this sort, but I hope = no-one imagines that this text guarantees a successful = outcome.

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