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Re: [Mtgvenue] visa situation... worsens?

JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es> Wed, 22 March 2017 21:56 UTC

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 22:56:42 +0100
From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es>
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Agree, we should definitively STOP completely doing meetings in US while this situation keeps going on.

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Jordi
 

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Mtgvenue <mtgvenue-bounces@ietf.org> en nombre de Vinayak Hegde <vinayakh@gmail.com>
Responder a: <vinayakh@gmail.com>
Fecha: miércoles, 22 de marzo de 2017, 22:50
Para: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
CC: mtgvenue <mtgvenue@ietf.org>
Asunto: Re: [Mtgvenue] visa situation... worsens?

    Then there is the no small matter of laptop/tablet ban on certain ME
    Asian airlines
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/21/exclusive-britain-poised-follow-us-ban-laptops-ipads-flights/
    
    This is extremely inconvenient and dangerous for anyone who has
    travelled a bit knows.
    1. Stuff in check-baggage gets banged around and thrown around (seen
    it myself multiple times) so electronics can get damaged.
    2. Stuff in check-in baggage gets robbed. (Happened multiple times to
    my friends)
    3. If there is a fire in check-in baggage in the hold due to a
    lithium-ion battery it can have worse implications than in carry-on.
    4. Finally customs can scan/clone your data without intervention (so
    there are privacy concerns here as well).
    
    Also it bears repeating that much of Africa and Asia connects through
    the middle-east for flights to Europe and US. With the US
    administration being what it is (this trend is likely to get worse),
    how much more needs to happen before the US is disqualified as a
    location for IETF meetings.
    
    Also looks likely that UK and Canada will follow this trend.
    
    -- Vinayak
    
    On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 1:32 AM, Michael Richardson
    <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote:
    >
    > https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/20/no-african-citizens-visas-california-annual-trade-summit
    >
    > An annual African trade summit in California had no African attendees this
    > year after at least 60 people were denied visas, according to event leaders.
    >
    > ====
    >
    > Is it too late to cancel IETF 102 in SFO?  {I'm guessing so}
    > What about IETF 111?  Was it a multi-year deal?
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works
    >  -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-
    >
    >
    >
    >
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