Re: [Mtgvenue] Martin Vigoureux's Yes on draft-ietf-mtgvenue-meeting-policy-06: (with COMMENT)

Suresh Krishnan <Suresh@kaloom.com> Wed, 06 June 2018 05:38 UTC

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From: Suresh Krishnan <Suresh@kaloom.com>
To: Martin Vigoureux <martin.vigoureux@nokia.com>
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Subject: Re: [Mtgvenue] Martin Vigoureux's Yes on draft-ietf-mtgvenue-meeting-policy-06: (with COMMENT)
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Hi Martin,
  Thanks for the comment. Please find response inline.

> On Jun 5, 2018, at 10:00 AM, Martin Vigoureux <martin.vigoureux@nokia.com> wrote:
> 
> Martin Vigoureux has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-mtgvenue-meeting-policy-06: Yes
> 
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> Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html
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> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mtgvenue-meeting-policy/
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> COMMENT:
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> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am not sure to understand what that sentence means (might simply because I'm
> not a native English reader):
>   The exploratory meeting proposals will be initiated based on
>   community consent.
> 
> If the proposals are *initiated* based on community consent, what has the
> community effectively consented to?

The intent was that the community has consented to the IESG to take further steps (go and ask the IASA) to determine if the proposal can be realistically implemented. I do have a text change suggestion based on a comment I resolved during IETF Last call. Does the following rewording clarify things?

OLD:
   The exploratory meeting proposals will be initiated based on
   community consent.  After such a proposal is initiated the IESG will
   make a decision in consultation with the Internet Administrative
   Support Activity (IASA) to ensure that the proposal can be
   realistically implemented. 

NEW:
   The timing and frequency of future exploratory meetings will be based
   on IETF consensus as determined by the IETF chair. Once a meeting 
   proposal is initiated, the IESG will make a decision in consultation with 
   the Internet Administrative Support Activity (IASA) to ensure that the 
   proposal can be realistically implemented. 

And I will also remove the first sentence “The timing…” from the end of the section since it will become redundant.

Thanks
Suresh