Re: [Mtgvenue] resolution of IESG comments for draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process-15

Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Tue, 12 June 2018 21:40 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Mtgvenue] resolution of IESG comments for draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process-15
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On 12.06.18 17:22, Russ Housley wrote:
>
>> On Jun 12, 2018, at 1:20 PM, Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com
>> <mailto:lear@cisco.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Russ,
>>
>>    
>>>>> 7.  Privacy Considerations
>>>>>
>>>>>    Different places have different constraints on individual privacy.
>>>>>    The requirements in this memo are intended to provide for some
>>>>>    limited protections. 
>>>
>>> I do not think that the memo itself provides any privacy
>>> protections.  Rather, the IAOC process described in the memo takes
>>> individual privacy as one factor in venue selection.
>>>
>>
>> Perhaps this goes to the AD's comment a bit more, but the only real
>> privacy protections involve how the network is managed, and that is a
>> requirement, not a process.
>
>
> Here is the whole section, which is a single paragraph:
>
>     7.  Privacy Considerations
>
>    Different places have different constraints on individual privacy.
>    The requirements in this memo are intended to provide for some
>    limited protections that attendees can apply.  As meetings are
>    announced, IASA SHALL inform the IETF of any limitations to privacy
>    they have become aware of in their investigations.  For example,
>    participants would be informed of any regulatory authentication or
>    logging requirements.  This note reveals no personally identifying
>    information apart from its authorship.
>
> I do not understand the use of "attendees can apply" in the second
> sentence. 

Right.  Nobody did.  It's trimmed.

> I think the requirements in this memo set some expectations, and then
> the next few sentence say that the IAOC shall tell the community about
> anything that is out of the norm.  But it does not really say that.

I think the point of the text is that if there are privacy limitations,
the community should be informed.



>
> I do not understand the last sentence.  This note reveals email
> addresses of the authors.  I think the last sentence should be removed
> or it should become an additional paragraph with more explanation.
>

Needs a new paragraph.