Re: [Mtgvenue] Issue #21: unfiltered should be mandatory (was: Re: issue #3: Too many mandatory)

[Ole Jacobsen <[e-mail]>]

On Tue, 18 Apr 2017, Fred Baker wrote:

> 
> > On Apr 18, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Ted Hardie <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > 
> > I agree that "unfiltered and unmodified" may be difficult to 
> > assure when nation states may change their laws, but I think it is 
> > reasonable for us to require that this be unfiltered and 
> > unmodified *by the venue's own actions*.
> 
> Good comment. That said, the one place I can think of where this was 
> a real issue was at IETF 79; the host had to jump through some 
> serious hoops to provide us with unfiltered access. In that case, I 
> think that the host could have very reasonably said that the 
> filtering was being done by a national firewall beyond their 
> control. Would we have found that acceptable? 

Yes, because it was made very clear what the actual situation would
be: unfiltered network in the meeting area, filtered in the hotel
rooms. And, at the time, the filtering was limited to some 
high-profile sites like Google, Facebook and YouTube, these days
the problem is active sabotage of VPN circuits. If we propose to
have another meeting in such a venue it would certainly only happen
after extensive community review.



Ole