Re: [Mtgvenue] Updated potential meeting location list
Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Sun, 23 February 2020 22:22 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Mtgvenue] Updated potential meeting location list
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John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> wrote: > * A very quick search yields the information that there are > non-stop flights from MSP to Amsterdam, London, Paris, > Reykjavik, and Tokyo, in addition to multiple locations in the > Caribbean, Mexico, and Belize (North American on my map but > maybe not in all definitions). That is several more than "no > direct flights outside..." and several more than several North > American cities listed as "suitable". Or perhaps Minneapolis is > being confused with, e.g., Austin or Ottawa, neither of which > has non-North American flights to anywhere but London but both > of which are "suitable". I was very confused by the statement about no-direct flights to MSP. (None from Ottawa, for me, but that's because Ottawa is definitely not suitable... in a dozen different ways. Frankly, Ottawa shouldn't even have it's own airport.) > * The risk of getting snowed in is indeed, a reason to avoid > Minneapolis. Actually, if you are worried about getting snowed in (**specifically**), a place that gets snow regularly (like Minneapolis or Ottawa or Calgary) is far less likely to blink than places like Toronto or NYC, where they don't deal with it every week :-) Of course, we could go to MSP in July. I am for what John said: we have been to at least 50 different cities since IETF30, which I'll arbitrarily say was when we outgrew university campuses, (IETF36 was my first, in LA). And while I'm sure that we can name 10 meeting locations (not, cities, but specific locations) which we can all agree were terrible, that leaves around 40 locations for which we have non-trivial amount of experience with. Jim Martin was my manager for about 15 months, and I observed how much new-location scouting he did for the IETF. Does it need to be done? Of course. Do we need to check out 3-4 new locations/year? I don't know. Should we attempt to amortize all the planning by returning two or three times over 5-6 years? I think so, provided we can do the conditional parts right. -- Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Updated potential meeting location… John C Klensin
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Updated potential meeting location… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Updated potential meeting location… John C Klensin
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Updated potential meeting location… Bob Hinden
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Updated potential meeting location… Victor Kuarsingh
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Updated potential meeting location… Mary Barnes
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Updated potential meeting location… Mary Barnes
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Updated potential meeting location… Victor Kuarsingh
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Updated potential meeting location… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Updated potential meeting location… John C Klensin
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Updated potential meeting location… Adam Roach
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Updated potential meeting location… Fred Baker
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Updated potential meeting location… Fred Baker
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Updated potential meeting location… John C Klensin
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Updated potential meeting location… John C Klensin
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Updated potential meeting location… Jay Daley
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Updated potential meeting location… John C Klensin
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Updated potential meeting location… Michael Richardson