Re: [Mtgvenue] comments on draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process-04
Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> Mon, 30 January 2017 12:56 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Mtgvenue] comments on draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process-04
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Stephen, On 1/30/2017 7:45 AM, Stephen Farrell wrote: > Hiya, > > On 30/01/17 12:32, Lou Berger wrote: >> Stephen, >> >> Just focusing in on comments to section 5 (as I suspect the other >> comments will receive sufficient attention by others): >> >> >> On 1/29/2017 11:10 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote: >>> - section 5: this overall seems too prescriptive to me. Do >>> we really think we'll need to follow this process *exactly* >>> in say 2027? I'd say making this all less prescriptive >>> would be better. >> I disagree -- Given the importance, visibility, impact, divisiveness, >> etc of venue selection I think exactly this level of detail needs to be >> agreed to by the community. I do see your point that this section is >> likely to need to be revisited more frequently than the rest of the >> document and would support publishing it in its own document. In fact >> this section has been pretty stable and is probably ready for LC so such >> a document could be rapidly split out and published. > So how about emphasising more that this section is a guideline > that's expected to evolve, that what's listed here is the > current practice (assuming it is) and that the IAOC may change > this but must publish their changes and follow community > consensus on such changes (as evaluated by the IESG)? To be > clear, I mean adding such text to the start of section 5, > before 5.1. WFM. > >>> - 5.3 & 5.5: the links aren't a good idea (and are access >>> controlled which is unacceptable if not fixed). >> Agreed this material can either be incorporated as an appendix. Given >> the current evolving situation the flow chart on contingency planning is >> good info to have available to the community... > So I still get a 401 when I click those links - has the material > been published somewhere else that the WG could see? no - that's what I was agree too -- and saying it should be incorporated within an appendix of the document. > If not, I > think that has to happen before one could think about WGLC. I think we're on the same page here, i.e. links (accessible or otherwise) are a bad idea... Lou > Cheer, > S. > > >> Lou >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Mtgvenue mailing list > Mtgvenue@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mtgvenue
- [Mtgvenue] comments on draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-v… Stephen Farrell
- [Mtgvenue] Not a nit: comments on draft-ietf-mtgv… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Not a nit: comments on draft-ietf-… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Mtgvenue] comments on draft-ietf-mtgvenue-ia… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Mtgvenue] comments on draft-ietf-mtgvenue-ia… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Mtgvenue] comments on draft-ietf-mtgvenue-ia… Lou Berger
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Not a nit: comments on draft-ietf-… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Mtgvenue] comments on draft-ietf-mtgvenue-ia… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Mtgvenue] comments on draft-ietf-mtgvenue-ia… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Mtgvenue] comments on draft-ietf-mtgvenue-ia… Lou Berger
- Re: [Mtgvenue] comments on draft-ietf-mtgvenue-ia… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Mtgvenue] comments on draft-ietf-mtgvenue-ia… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Mtgvenue] comments on draft-ietf-mtgvenue-ia… Stephen Farrell
- [Mtgvenue] Accessibility: (was Re: comments on dr… Dave Crocker
- [Mtgvenue] Priority order: (was: Re: comments on … Dave Crocker
- [Mtgvenue] business travel: (was: Re: comments on… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Mtgvenue] comments on draft-ietf-mtgvenue-ia… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Mtgvenue] business travel: and Accessibility: Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Mtgvenue] comments on draft-ietf-mtgvenue-ia… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Priority order: Eliot Lear
- Re: [Mtgvenue] comments on draft-ietf-mtgvenue-ia… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Priority order: Dave Crocker
- Re: [Mtgvenue] comments on draft-ietf-mtgvenue-ia… Mary Barnes
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Priority order: Eliot Lear
- Re: [Mtgvenue] comments on draft-ietf-mtgvenue-ia… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Mtgvenue] comments on draft-ietf-mtgvenue-ia… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Mtgvenue] comments on draft-ietf-mtgvenue-ia… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Mtgvenue] business travel: Brian E Carpenter
- [Mtgvenue] Food (was: Re: comments on draft-ietf-… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Mtgvenue] comments on draft-ietf-mtgvenue-ia… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Food Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Food Dave Crocker
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Food Mary Barnes
- [Mtgvenue] Emergency cancellation [was: comments … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Emergency cancellation [was: comme… Melinda Shore
- Re: [Mtgvenue] comments on draft-ietf-mtgvenue-ia… Eliot Lear
- [Mtgvenue] Closing on comments to section 5 (was:… Lou Berger
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Closing on comments to section 5 Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Closing on comments to section 5 Charles Eckel (eckelcu)