Re: Another proposal
sytek!kzm@hplabs.HP.COM (Keith Mc Cloghrie) Tue, 05 December 1989 19:33 UTC
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From: sytek!kzm@hplabs.HP.COM (Keith Mc Cloghrie)
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Subject: Re: Another proposal
To: mtudwg
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 89 11:17:18 PDT
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from " hector!smb" at Dec 04, 89 9:42 pm
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> Here's the proposal: As in RFC 1063, the sender attaches an MTU Request > option to some of its outgoing datagrams. The option is updated by > routers along the way. When the last-hop router is reached (i.e., > a router which can deliver the packet directly to the destination > host), that router now knows the path MTU. > > Without commenting (for now) on the substance of this proposal, I > should note one or two glitches with it. First, the last-hop router > does not necessarily know the host's MTU. From the Host Requirements > RFC, it is not clear that hosts are required to accept packets of > length greater than 576, regardless of the MTU. Are you referring to paragraph 3.3.3-Discussion-a) of HR RFC. If so, I think that paragraph is considering the case of MTU < 576, where the fragments need to be put back together; as such, it is not requiring the receiver to be able to re-assemble a datagram larger than 576. In general, there's a danger of confusing MTU and MSS here. If the transport-layer/application cannot accept a datagram of at least the local MTU size, then it must use MSS (or some equivalent) to limit the size of the incoming messages, i.e. set MSS < MTU. The purpose of MTU-Discovery is for the case where MSS > MTU. This leads me to a further thought: I suggest that responding to MTU-Discovery should be mandatory, but being able to invoke MTU-Discovery should be optional, i.e. all Hosts MUST respond to MTU-Discovery mechanisms, but hosts MAY implement the invocation of MTU-Discovery mechanisms. Keith.
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