Re: routing protocols will provide path-MTU
Steve Deering <deering@pescadero.stanford.edu> Tue, 27 February 1990 06:23 UTC
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Date: 26 Feb 1990 21:45-PST
From: Steve Deering <deering@pescadero.stanford.edu>
Subject: Re: routing protocols will provide path-MTU
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In-Reply-To: Craig Partridge's message of Mon, 26 Feb 90 074259 -0500
Craig and Jeff both mentioned one of the possible ways in which routing protocols might provide path-MTU information to hosts, by disseminating MTU info as part of their routing updates. (They mentioned link-state algorithms. I believe cisco's IGRP also supports this.) However, as they observed, this doesn't work with information-hiding, subnetting, default routes, etc. Basically, it doesn't scale -- it is unreasonable to expect your neighboring gateway to know the path-MTU to every possible Internet destination (and for every TOS). Another possible approach would be one in which a host asks a first-hop gateway for the path-MTU to a given destination, and the gateway then goes out and probes the path, all the way to the last-hop router, and returns an answer to the host. I don't see that this offers any advantages over the schemes we have been discussing; it has the drawback of forcing a full RTT (from source host to last-hop-router) delay before sending data, unlike the RF-bit scheme (no delay) or the DF-bit scheme (no delay if no MTU shrink point, one RTT delay to the shrink point if there is only one, multiple increasing RTTs if multiple shrink points). A third possibility is that the "coming revolution in routing protocols" will impose the need for all connections/session/associations/whatever to start with a route setup phase (e.g., passing authenticators, setting up policy paths, etc.), and the MTU will be provided as part of the route setup. What I was trying to find out was, when it was said at the IETF meeting that, "Within 'a few' years, the routing protocols will provide path-MTU information, so MTU discovery will be unnecessary.", what did the speaker(s) have in mind? And why should we believe them? Steve
- routing protocols will provide path-MTU Craig Partridge
- Re: routing protocols will provide path-MTU Steve Deering
- Re: routing protocols will provide path-MTU Noel Chiappa
- Re: routing protocols will provide path-MTU Steve Deering