Re: [Mud] Review of draft-richardson-mud-qrcode-02

Marco Tiloca <marco.tiloca@ri.se> Fri, 24 December 2021 18:48 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Mud] Review of draft-richardson-mud-qrcode-02
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Hi Michael,

Thanks, it looks good!

Best,
/Marco

On 2021-12-24 18:37, Michael Richardson wrote:
> Marco Tiloca <marco.tiloca@ri.se> wrote:
>      > On the second point, it may just fit as a short paragraph in Section 6
>      > "Privacy Considerations". For instance:
>
>      > "The use of URL shorting services discussed in Section 3.2.4 may result in
>      > trading convenience and efficiency with privacy, since the service provider
>      > might leverage per-device or per-customer short URLs to track and correlate
>      > requests."
>
> I've added this to https://github.com/mcr/mud-qrcode/pull/4
>
>      > Thanks, I guess these points are also covered in the cited
>      > mud-acceptable-urls . I think it would be good have them briefly included in
>      > this document too, along the same lines in your reply above.
>
> Added above too.
>
>      >> > * I think it would be good to add considerations on the security of the
>      >> > (access to the) physical premises, and on the trust required on the network
>      >> > operators performing device deployment and QRcode scanning on those
>      >> > premises.
>      >>
>      >> Are you thinking about a situation where the devices are deployed on a
>      >> campus, and employees or students could attach new stickers to the device?
>
>      > ==>MT
>      > Yes, and to possible active actions from QRcode examiners as hinted in the
>      > review at [1].
>
>      > [1]
>      > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-richardson-mud-qrcode-02-iotdir-early-jimenez-2021-11-25/
>
> okay, so I think that I've added text about this already.
>
> --
> Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>   . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting )
>             Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide

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