Re: [Mud] [OPSAWG] SBOMs and version non-specific MUD files

Dick Brooks <dick@reliableenergyanalytics.com> Fri, 04 February 2022 19:01 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Mud] [OPSAWG] SBOMs and version non-specific MUD files
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Michael,

The predominant "SBOM delivery channel" I see is through access controlled
customer portals where customers can download SBOM's Vulnerability
Disclosures and other artifacts needed to perform a NIST C-SCRM risk
assessment for Executive Order 14028.
Here's a use case to consider, listing all of the evidence data needed:
https://github.com/rjb4standards/REA-Products/blob/master/UseCaseVDR117/READ
ME.md


Thanks,

Dick Brooks

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Subject: [OPSAWG] SBOMs and version non-specific MUD files


ietf-opsawg-sbom-access provides for linking to an SBOM from a MUD file.

My understanding is that for the sbom-retrival-method==cloud, that a list of
sboms is included, one per version of the device firmware.

I just wanted to re-iterate that this really is a good thing, because it
allows for a version agnostic MUD file to list many things.

I would like a cloud example to be added.

I think that we need some RFC6125 text for the https: local-well-known text
to explain how validation is (not) done.

We still need some way to determine what version of firmware a device is
running, and while the correct answer is remote attestation, it would be
lovely if there was a recommendation for a lighter weight process.
LLDP regularly reveals this, but that's unlikely to work over wifi or in
residential situations.
(I acknowledge that this is out of scope for sbom-access)


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Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works  -=
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