Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family
William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> Tue, 24 November 2009 12:35 UTC
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On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Pasi Sarolahti <pasi.sarolahti@iki.fi> wrote: > I think a new address family would be a minimal needed change to the current > socket API, without extending the API with new operations, but yet provide > an interface to handle multiple addresses in a socket. One potentially > useful characteristic would be that this would allow name resolver to return > multiple IPv4 and/or IPv6 addresses from the name server as a single > sockaddr structure, that could be directly given as a parameter to a connect > call, which would lead to trying which of the addresses are reachable for > the MPTCP session. Hi Pasi, It seems like you want to preserve the connect() call's parameters by altering the definition of sockaddr so that it can contain multiple addresses. But functionally, what we really want to do is pass an array of sockaddrs to connect(). Stupid question time: what makes redefining sockaddr superior to an extended API call that supplants connect() and accepts an array of sockaddrs? Poking around linux's include files (netinet/in.h, bits/socket.h) I notice that they go to a lot of trouble to make all sockaddrs come out to exactly the same number of bytes. Won't a variable length sockaddr that holds a variable number of addresses make a mess of that? >> SOCK_MULTISTREAM or using a combination socket type like SOCK_STREAM | >> SOCK_MULTIPATH >> from the following reasons. Found a quote I think bears on the topic at http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/net/9904.2/0091.html : >The AF_ prefix stands for "address family" and the PF_prefix stands for >"protocol family". Historicly, the intent was that a single protocol family >might support multiple address families and that the PF_ value was used to >create the socket and the AF_ value was used in socket address structures. >But in actuality, a protocol family supporting multiple address families has >never been supported and the <sys/socket.h> header defines the PF_ value >for a given protocol to be equal to the AF_ value for that protocol. I think when we discuss allowing multipath TCP to use IPv4 and IPv6 addresses interchangeably, we're talking about one protocol family using multiple address families, are we not? Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin ................ herrin@dirtside.com bill@herrin.us 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/> Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
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- Re: [multipathtcp] API: which address to use William Herrin
- Re: [multipathtcp] API: which address to use Pasi Sarolahti
- Re: [multipathtcp] API: which address to use SCHARF, Michael
- Re: [multipathtcp] API: which address to use Yoshifumi Nishida
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- [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Pasi Sarolahti
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Olivier Bonaventure
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family William Herrin
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Michael Tüxen
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Michael Tüxen
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Laganier, Julien
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Joe Touch
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Laganier, Julien
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Joe Touch
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Laganier, Julien
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Joe Touch
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Laganier, Julien
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Pasi Sarolahti
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Joe Touch
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Yoshifumi Nishida
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Laganier, Julien
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Yoshifumi Nishida
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Pasi Sarolahti
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Andrew Yourtchenko
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Pasi Sarolahti
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Andrew Yourtchenko
- [multipathtcp] Multipath deployment and fate shar… Costin Raiciu
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath deployment and fate … Joe Touch
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Laganier, Julien
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Michael Tüxen
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Michael Tüxen
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Laganier, Julien
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Yoshifumi Nishida
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Pasi Sarolahti
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Michael Tüxen
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Michael Tüxen
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Christian Vogt
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Christian Vogt
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Michael Tüxen
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Yoshifumi Nishida
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Christian Vogt
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath Address Family Yoshifumi Nishida
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath deployment and fate … Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath deployment and fate … Laganier, Julien
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath deployment and fate … Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath deployment and fate … Joe Touch
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath deployment and fate … Laganier, Julien
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath deployment and fate … Joe Touch
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath deployment and fate … Joe Touch
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath deployment and fate … Laganier, Julien
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath deployment and fate … Joe Touch
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath deployment and fate … Laganier, Julien
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath deployment and fate … Joe Touch
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath deployment and fate … Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath deployment and fate … Joe Touch
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath deployment and fate … Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath deployment and fate … Joe Touch
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath deployment and fate … Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [multipathtcp] Multipath deployment and fate … Yoshifumi Nishida
- [multipathtcp] draft minute at IETF77 Yoshifumi Nishida