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Yoshifumi & Phil,

  Another potential item under "Feature Extensions" could be dedicated to
interoperability with 5G. We are preparing an update to the "5G
considerations" draft presented in the last session, which can be used as
input for the group to decide if it should be on this list.

  Best Regards,
Xavier

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:16 AM, Yoshifumi Nishida <nishida@sfc.wide.ad.jp>
wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> Phil and I have been discussing the next step for the WG.
> After we finish 6824bis, we =EF=BD=97on't have active WG items as the pro=
xy work
> will be discussed at tcpm WG.
> One suggestion might be to close the WG or to put it in dormant state,
> however, we are thinking there still might be some more working items as
> we've seen interesting presentations for new ideas, experiment results
> and so on at the meetings and on the ML.
>
> Below is the list of potential working items from the chairs' point of
> view.
> Please let us know if you think some of them are important items for the
> WG (and your willingness to contribute if possible) or there are some
> more items, or this is not something we should work on, etc.
>
> Also, if you have some opinions on the status of the WG or suggestions to
> the chairs, please let us hear!
>
> We appreciate your feedback
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Yoshi & Phil
>
>
>
>
> 1: API extensions (This is already in our charter)
>     draft-hesmans-mptcp-socket
>     draft-samar-mptcp-socketapi
>
> 2: Feature extensions
>     a) robust initial setup
>         proposed by Markus, also Kien presented a similar idea
>
>     b) fast subflow setup
>         proposed by Quentin
>
>     c) security enhancement
>         1) TLS
>             draft-bonaventure-mptcp-tls-00
>             draft-paasch-mptcp-tls-authentication-00
>
>         2) Utilize proposals from tcpinc?
>
>         3) Elliptic Curve Cryptography
>             draft-kim-mptcp-semptcp-00
>
>     d) Solutions for operational issues
>          1) how to handle nat64 issue proposed by Quentin
>          2) how to handle load balancer proposed by Fabien, Christoph,
> Costin
>
> 3: Congestion Control (This topic itself should probably be discussed at
> ICCRG. But, it may trigger some updates of the protocol or APIs later)
>      a) OLIA
>           draft-khalili-mptcp-congestion-control-05
>
>      b) mptcp + BBR?
>           presented by Jing
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Yoshifumi &amp;=20
Phil,</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 Another potential item under &quot;Fe=
ature Extensions&quot; could be dedicated to interoperability with 5G. We a=
re preparing an update to the &quot;5G considerations&quot; draft presented=
 in the last session, which can be used as input for the group to decide if=
 it should be on this list.</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 Best Regards,</=
div><div>Xavier<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:16 AM, Yoshifumi Nishida <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nishida@sfc.wide.ad.jp" target=3D"_blank">ni=
shida@sfc.wide.ad.jp</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
"><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-size:16px">Hello everyone,</span><br=
 style=3D"font-size:16px"><br style=3D"font-size:16px"><span style=3D"font-=
size:16px">Phil and I have been discussing the next step for the WG.</span>=
<br style=3D"font-size:16px"><span style=3D"font-size:16px">After we finish=
 6824bis, we =EF=BD=97on&#39;t have active WG items as the proxy=C2=A0</spa=
n><span style=3D"font-size:16px">work will be discussed at tcpm WG.</span><=
div><span style=3D"font-size:16px">One suggestion might be to close the WG =
or to put it in dormant state, however,=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:16px">we are thinking there still might be some more working items as we&=
#39;ve seen</span><span style=3D"font-size:16px">=C2=A0interesting presenta=
tions for new ideas, experiment results and so on at the=C2=A0</span><span =
style=3D"font-size:16px">meetings and on the ML.</span><br style=3D"font-si=
ze:16px"><br style=3D"font-size:16px"><span style=3D"font-size:16px">Below =
is the list of potential working items from the chairs&#39; point of view.<=
/span><br style=3D"font-size:16px"><span style=3D"font-size:16px">Please le=
t us know if you think some of them are important items for=C2=A0</span><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:16px">the WG (and your willingness to contribute if p=
ossible) or there are=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-size:16px">some more =
items, or this is not something we should work on, etc.</span><br style=3D"=
font-size:16px"><br style=3D"font-size:16px"><span style=3D"font-size:16px"=
>Also, if you have some opinions on the status of the WG or suggestions=C2=
=A0</span><span style=3D"font-size:16px">to the chairs, please let us hear!=
</span><br style=3D"font-size:16px"><br style=3D"font-size:16px"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:16px">We appreciate your feedback</span><br style=3D"font-si=
ze:16px"><br style=3D"font-size:16px"><span style=3D"font-size:16px">Thanks=
,</span><br style=3D"font-size:16px"><span style=3D"font-size:16px">--</spa=
n><br style=3D"font-size:16px"><span style=3D"font-size:16px">Yoshi &amp; P=
hil</span><br style=3D"font-size:16px"><br><br style=3D"font-size:16px"><br=
><br style=3D"font-size:16px"><span style=3D"font-size:16px">1: API extensi=
ons (This is already in our charter)</span><br style=3D"font-size:16px"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:16px">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 draft-hesmans-mptcp-socket</span>=
<br style=3D"font-size:16px"><span style=3D"font-size:16px">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 d=
raft-samar-mptcp-socketapi</span><br style=3D"font-size:16px"><br style=3D"=
font-size:16px"><span style=3D"font-size:16px">2: Feature extensions</span>=
<br style=3D"font-size:16px"><span style=3D"font-size:16px">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 a=
) robust initial setup</span><br style=3D"font-size:16px"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:16px">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 proposed by Markus,=C2=A0</span><=
span style=3D"font-size:16px">also Kien presented a similar idea</span><br =
style=3D"font-size:16px"><br style=3D"font-size:16px"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:16px">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 b) fast subflow setup</span><br style=3D"font-size:=
16px"><span style=3D"font-size:16px">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 proposed b=
y Quentin=C2=A0</span><br style=3D"font-size:16px"><br style=3D"font-size:1=
6px"><span style=3D"font-size:16px">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 c) security enhancement</=
span><br style=3D"font-size:16px"><span style=3D"font-size:16px">=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1) TLS</span><br style=3D"font-size:16px"><span style=3D"=
font-size:16px">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 draft-bonaventure=
-mptcp-tls-00</span><br style=3D"font-size:16px"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
6px">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 draft-paasch-mptcp-tls-</spa=
n><span style=3D"font-size:16px">authent<wbr>ication-00</span><br style=3D"=
font-size:16px"><br style=3D"font-size:16px"><span style=3D"font-size:16px"=
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2) Utilize proposals from tcpinc?</span><br st=
yle=3D"font-size:16px"><br style=3D"font-size:16px"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:16px">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 3) Elliptic Curve Cryptography</span><b=
r style=3D"font-size:16px"><span style=3D"font-size:16px">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 draft-kim-mptcp-semptcp-00</span><br style=3D"font=
-size:16px"><br style=3D"font-size:16px"><span style=3D"font-size:16px">=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 d) Solutions for operational issues</span><br style=3D"font-size=
:16px"><span style=3D"font-size:16px">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A01) =
how to handle nat64 issue proposed by Quentin</span><br style=3D"font-size:=
16px"><span style=3D"font-size:16px">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02) h=
ow to handle load balancer proposed by Fabien, Christoph, Costin</span><br =
style=3D"font-size:16px"><br style=3D"font-size:16px"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:16px">3: Congestion Control (This topic itself should probably be discu=
ssed at ICCRG. But, it may trigger some updates of the protocol or APIs lat=
er) =C2=A0</span><br style=3D"font-size:16px"><span style=3D"font-size:16px=
">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0a) OLIA</span><br style=3D"font-size:16px"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:16px">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 draft-khalili-mptcp=
-</span><span style=3D"font-size:16px">congestion<wbr>-control-05</span><br=
 style=3D"font-size:16px"><br style=3D"font-size:16px"><span style=3D"font-=
size:16px">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0b) mptcp + BBR?</span><br style=3D"font-size=
:16px"><span style=3D"font-size:16px">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 pr=
esented by Jing</span><br></div></div>
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