Re: [multrans] Updated version of the multicast PS draft
<xiaohong.deng@orange-ftgroup.com> Thu, 09 June 2011 07:32 UTC
Return-Path: <xiaohong.deng@orange-ftgroup.com>
X-Original-To: multrans@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: multrans@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix)
with ESMTP id 785621F0C3C for <multrans@ietfa.amsl.com>;
Thu, 9 Jun 2011 00:32:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: 1.686
X-Spam-Level: *
X-Spam-Status: No,
score=1.686 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599,
HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.884, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,
J_CHICKENPOX_92=0.6, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com
[127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CRNWiuip+rCI for
<multrans@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 00:32:02 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from r-mail1.rd.francetelecom.com (r-mail1.rd.francetelecom.com
[217.108.152.41]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFCC61F0C3B for
<multrans@ietf.org>; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 00:32:01 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from r-mail1.rd.francetelecom.com (localhost.localdomain
[127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 785146D8002;
Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:33:17 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from ftrdsmtp2.rd.francetelecom.fr (unknown [10.192.128.47]) by
r-mail1.rd.francetelecom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6F86C8003;
Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:33:17 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from ch-mailsrv.rd.francetelecom.fr ([10.193.250.27]) by
ftrdsmtp2.rd.francetelecom.fr with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675);
Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:31:59 +0200
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5
Content-class: urn:content-classes:message
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CC2677.4F8465DE"
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 15:31:56 +0800
Message-ID: <0962B0BEF842A24191AD9BE41A8DD2FC017FE8E5@ch-mailsrv.rd.francetelecom.fr>
In-Reply-To: <002201cc2600$a48b9b90$eda2d2b0$@com>
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
Thread-Topic: RE:Updated version of the multicast PS draft
Thread-Index: Acwlu9uVb7Z2B4BnSiCLsnrtbnoymAAQ9VvQAB3MFiA=
References: <983A1D8DA0DA5F4EB747BF34CBEE5CD14AEDBBD688@PUEXCB1C.nanterre.francetelecom.fr>
<0962B0BEF842A24191AD9BE41A8DD2FC017CB95A@ch-mailsrv.rd.francetelecom.fr>
<983A1D8DA0DA5F4EB747BF34CBEE5CD14AEDBBDD1B@PUEXCB1C.nanterre.francetelecom.fr>
<0962B0BEF842A24191AD9BE41A8DD2FC017CBB02@ch-mailsrv.rd.francetelecom.fr>
<3322_1307439889_4DEDF311_3322_12627_1_983A1D8DA0DA5F4EB747BF34CBEE5CD14AEEF0F8BC@PUEXCB1C.nanterre.francetelecom.fr>
<BANLkTikj0Lsd=5pNY7SLMTcSdt2AWWge6g@mail.gmail.com>
<002201cc2600$a48b9b90$eda2d2b0$@com>
From: <xiaohong.deng@orange-ftgroup.com>
To: <tena@huawei.com>, <jacniq@gmail.com>,
<christian.jacquenet@orange-ftgroup.com>
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jun 2011 07:31:59.0777 (UTC)
FILETIME=[51889110:01CC2677]
Cc: multrans@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [multrans] Updated version of the multicast PS draft
X-BeenThere: multrans@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: "Discuss the work of IPv4-IPv6 multicast." <multrans.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/multrans>,
<mailto:multrans-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/multrans>
List-Post: <mailto:multrans@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:multrans-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/multrans>,
<mailto:multrans-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 07:32:05 -0000
Hello all,
I echo Tina's suggestion to edit and share a discussion between Problem Statement draft authors and me to multrans list.
Xiaohong: Comment #1 on section 2.2
To be more consistent with section 3, IMHO, it is also worth mention that when receiver and source are of different IP address family, in particular, IPv6 receiver and IPv4 source in NAT64 case, issues raise. For this purpose, propose add something like this:
"For the sake of good use of scared IPv4 address recourses,it is also likely,
during transion period, that terminal devices are only provisioned
with an IPv6 prefix, but the multicast content is still IPv4-formatted.
As a result, IPv6 receivers need ways to receive IPv4-formatted multicast
content."
Christian: Re comment #1, I propose the following additional sentence in section 2.2: "Likewise, the global IPv4 address depletion encourages the development of IPv6 receivers while contents may very well remain IPv4-formatted. There is therefore a need to make sure such IPv6 receivers can access IPv4-formatted contents during the transition period."
Jacni>: It's good! :-)
Xiaohong: Comment #2 on section 3.1.
Propose to change the wording of: "this scenario is prioritized by service providers, *including* those that are deploying or will deploy DS-Lite CGN capabilities for the sake of IPv4 service continuity. " to " this scenario is prioritized by service providers, *especially* those that are deploying or will deploy DS-Lite CGN capabilities for the sake of IPv4 service continuity. " , because IMHO, other operators, for example, who are deploying NAT444, may not prioritize this use case.
Christian: Re your comment #2, I'm not sure we need that subtlety ("especially" instead of "including") as we don't make any specific assumption about the various situations that may arise. I therefore suggest to leave the text as is. But I'll wait for the feedback of my fellow co-authors before posting an updated version of the draft based upon your comments.
Cheers,
Xiaohong
opensource A+P: http://opensourceaplusp.weebly.com/
________________________________
·¢¼þÈË: Tina Tsou [mailto:tena@huawei.com]
·¢ËÍʱ¼ä: 2011Äê6ÔÂ9ÈÕ 1:22
ÊÕ¼þÈË: 'Jacni Qin'; JACQUENET Christian OLNC-NAD-TIP
³ËÍ: DENG Xiaohong ESP/PEK; 'Lee, Yiu'; BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC-NAD-TIP
Ö÷Ìâ: RE: RE:Updated version of the multicast PS draft
Friends,
Would you send your technical comments to the multrans list, and then broader audience can listen to?
We keep our promises with one another ¨C no matter what!
Best Regards,
Tina TSOU
http://tinatsou.weebly.com/contact.html
From: Jacni Qin [mailto:jacniq@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 2:09 AM
To: christian.jacquenet@orange-ftgroup.com
Cc: DENG Xiaohong ESP/PEK; Tina Tsou; Lee, Yiu; BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/NAD/TIP
Subject: Re: RE:Updated version of the multicast PS draft
Re-,
Thanks Xiaohong for the comments,
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:44 PM, <christian.jacquenet@orange-ftgroup.com> wrote:
Hello Xiaohong,
Thanks for both your kind words and your feedback :-)
Re: your comment #1, I propose the following additional sentence in section 2.2: "Likewise, the global IPv4 address depletion encourages the development of IPv6 receivers while contents may very well remain IPv4-formatted. There is therefore a need to make sure such IPv6 receivers can access IPv4-formatted contents during the transition period."
Jacni>: It's good! :-)
Cheers,
Jacni
Re: your comment #2, I'm not sure we need that subtlety ("especially" instead of "including") as we don't make any specific assumption about the various situations that may arise. I therefore suggest to leave the text as is.
But I'll wait for the feedback of my fellow co-authors before posting an updated version of the draft based upon your comments.
Thanks again!
Cheers,
Christian.
- Re: [multrans] Updated version of the multicast P… xiaohong.deng