Re: [multrans] Draft Multrans BoF request

Tina Tsou <tena@huawei.com> Mon, 13 June 2011 05:02 UTC

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Subject: Re: [multrans] Draft Multrans BoF request
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Hi all,
Here is the update based on the multrans list discussion.

I volunteer to present the list of work items. I put some presenters' name
with question mark for the time being; need to be confirmed by that time.
----------------------
In current deployments, the IP multicast forwarding scheme is used by many
providers to deliver some services, such as live TV broadcasting.
Transition to IPv6 raises issues and corresponding requirements. In
particular, IPv4 service continuity is an essential requirement from a
business perspective.
This specifically includes continued receiver access to IPv4-framed contents
even when the assignment of a dedicated global IPv4 address to the receiver
is no longer possible and even after the receivers have migrated to IPv6.
Likewise, the delivery of IPv6-framed contents to IPv4 receivers must also
be possible.
Multicast transition scenarios include the ability to access IPv4-framed
multicast contents from an IPv4 receiver over an IPv6-only network and the
ability to access IPv4-framed multicast contents from an IPv6-only receiver.
The aforementioned issues can be classified into:
.    Multicast group and source discovery procedures
.    Multicast group subscription procedures
.    Multicast tree computation
.    Required IPv4-IPv6 multicast inter-working functions
The proposed BoF session aims at discussing and hopefully validating the
need for the IETF to work on these issues.
The proposed agenda for the BoF session goes like this:
.    Welcome introduction and agenda bashing (chairs, 10 min)
.    Multicast transition scenarios (XiaoHong?, 20 min)
.    Requirements (Yiu Lee?, 15 min)
.    Issues (Tom Taylor?, 15 min)
.    Scope (TBD, 15 min)
.    List of work items (Tina TSOU, 15 min)
.    Discussion (all, 20 min)
.    Conclusion and next steps (chairs, ADs, 10 min)
Reading material:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jaclee-behave-v4v6-mcast-ps-02"

BoF chairs should include one rep from the service provider's community.
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We keep our promises with one another – no matter what!

Best Regards,
Tina TSOU
http://tinatsou.weebly.com/contact.html


-----Original Message-----
From: multrans-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:multrans-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf
Of Lee, Yiu
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 4:36 PM
To: Tom Taylor; mohamed.boucadair@orange-ftgroup.com
Cc: 'Jari Arkko'; multrans@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [multrans] Draft Multrans BoF request

Hi Tom,

I guess we can remove "issues" from the topic just like what you
suggested. For the time allocated to scenarios, I think we will list all
but only focus on 4-6-4 and 6r-4s.

Regards,
Yiu


On 6/10/11 11:10 PM, "Tom Taylor" <tom111.taylor@bell.net> wrote:

>Please explain why you want to keep requirements and issues together.
>They are two separate topics. The requirements flow from the users' and
>service providers' needs. The issues flow from a technical analysis of
>the operation of the available protocols.
>
>As to time allocation, I'd suggest that the scenarios should have
>somewhat less time, 15 minutes at most, unless we are going to present
>lower-priority scenarios at a detailed level. The extra time should be
>shifted to the discussion slot.
>
>On 10/06/2011 2:53 AM, mohamed.boucadair@orange-ftgroup.com wrote:
>> Hi Tina, all,
>>
>> I would propose to keep one single slot to discuss the issues and
>>requirements.
>>
>> Furthermore, a slot to present the scope
>>(http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jaclee-behave-v4v6-mcast-ps-02#section-
>>2.1) and the list of work items should be added (see
>>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jaclee-behave-v4v6-mcast-ps-02#section-5
>>)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Med
>>
>>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : multrans-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:multrans-bounces@ietf.org] De la
>>part de Tina Tsou
>> Envoyé : mardi 7 juin 2011 00:06
>> À : multrans@ietf.org
>> Cc : 'Jari Arkko'
>> Objet : Re: [multrans] Draft Multrans BoF request
>>
>> Hi all,
>> A small nit,
>> .    Requirements and issues (TBD, 15 min)
>> should be
>> .    Requirements (TBD, 15 min)
>>
>> It is updated below.
>>
>> In current deployments, the IP multicast forwarding scheme is used by
>>many
>> providers to deliver some services, such as live TV broadcasting.
>> Transition to IPv6 raises issues and corresponding requirements. In
>> particular, IPv4 service continuity is an essential requirement from a
>> business perspective.
>> This specifically includes continued receiver access to IPv4-formatted
>> contents even when the assignment of a dedicated global IPv4 address to
>>the
>> receiver is no longer possible and even after the receivers have
>>migrated to
>> IPv6.
>> Likewise, the delivery of IPv6-formatted contents to IPv4 receivers must
>> also be possible.
>> Multicast transition scenarios include the ability to access
>>IPv4-formatted
>> multicast contents from an IPv4 receiver over an IPv6-only network and
>>the
>> ability to access IPv4-formatted multicast contents from an IPv6-only
>> receiver.
>> The aforementioned issues can be classified into:
>> .    Multicast group and source discovery procedures
>> .    Multicast group subscription procedures
>> .    Multicast tree computation
>> .    Required IPv4-IPv6 multicast inter-working functions
>> The proposed BoF session aims at discussing and hopefully validating the
>> need for the IETF to work on these issues.
>> The proposed agenda for the BoF session goes like this:
>> .    Welcome introduction and agenda bashing (chairs, 10 min)
>> .    Multicast transition scenarios (TBD, 20 min)
>> .    Requirements (TBD, 15 min)
>> .    Issues (TBD, 15 min)
>> .    Discussion (all, 20 min)
>> .    Conclusion and next steps (chairs, ADs, 10 min)
>> Reading material:
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jaclee-behave-v4v6-mcast-ps-02"
>>
>> BoF chairs should include one rep from the service provider's community.
>>
>>
>> We keep our promises with one another - no matter what!
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Tina TSOU
>> http://tinatsou.weebly.com/contact.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
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