Re: [multrans] Comments on Dual Stack case

KELLIL Mounir <mounir.kellil@cea.fr> Wed, 25 May 2011 13:53 UTC

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From: KELLIL Mounir <mounir.kellil@cea.fr>
To: Tina Tsou <tena@huawei.com>
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Subject: Re: [multrans] Comments on Dual Stack case
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Bonjour Tina,

OK no problem, I will do my best

Best regards

Mounir

Mounir KELLIL
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> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Tina Tsou [mailto:tena@huawei.com]
> Envoyé : mercredi 25 mai 2011 00:18
> À : KELLIL Mounir
> Cc : 'MBONED WG'; pim@ietf.org; multrans@ietf.org
> Objet : RE: [multrans] Comments on Dual Stack case
> 
> Bonjour Mounir,
> Would you send out your comments these two days?
> Christian is working on the Problem Statement I-D and plans to post the
> I-D
> at the end of this week.
> 
> 
> We keep our promises with one another - no matter what!
> 
> Best Regards,
> Tina TSOU
> http://tinatsou.weebly.com/contact.html
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: KELLIL Mounir [mailto:mounir.kellil@cea.fr]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 12:56 AM
> To: Tina Tsou
> Cc: MBONED WG; pim@ietf.org; multrans@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [multrans] Comments on Dual Stack case
> 
> Bonjour Tina,
> 
> Sure I will be happy to review the document
> 
> Regards
> 
> Mounir KELLIL
> CEA LIST
> e-mail : mounir.kellil@cea.fr
> web : http://www-list.cea.fr
> 
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : Tina Tsou [mailto:tena@huawei.com]
> > Envoyé : mercredi 4 mai 2011 02:22
> > À : KELLIL Mounir
> > Cc : 'MBONED WG'; pim@ietf.org; multrans@ietf.org
> > Objet : RE: [multrans] Comments on Dual Stack case
> >
> > Bonjour Mounir,
> > If you consider a dual-stack network only, that's what we are looking
> > for.
> >
> > Would you review
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jaclee-behave-v4v6-mcast-ps/,
> > and
> > send out your comments or proposed text to reflect the issues of a
> dual
> > stack network, which is not covered by the current version?
> >
> > Merci.
> >
> > Yiu Lee is editing the XML file.
> >
> >
> > We keep our promises with one another - no matter what!
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Tina TSOU
> > http://tinatsou.weebly.com/contact.html
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: KELLIL Mounir [mailto:mounir.kellil@cea.fr]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:12 AM
> > To: Tina Tsou
> > Cc: MBONED WG; pim@ietf.org; multrans@ietf.org
> > Subject: RE: [multrans] Comments on Dual Stack case
> >
> > Bonjour Tina,
> >
> > We consider a dual-stack network only. The source could be IPv4 only
> or
> > IPv6
> > only, not necessarily both. Regarding SAMRG, they normally intend to
> > push
> > the work (not ours) further to IETF. But, honestly, I am not aware of
> > their
> > current status.
> >
> > BTW, I will be happy to follow the discussions on multirans
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Mounir
> >
> > Mounir KELLIL
> > CEA LIST
> > e-mail : mounir.kellil@cea.fr
> > web : http://www-list.cea.fr
> >
> > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > De : Tina Tsou [mailto:tena@huawei.com]
> > > Envoyé : lundi 2 mai 2011 20:29
> > > À : KELLIL Mounir
> > > Cc : 'MBONED WG'; pim@ietf.org; multrans@ietf.org
> > > Objet : RE: [multrans] Comments on Dual Stack case
> > >
> > > Bonjour Mounir,
> > > Thank you. I read draft-kellil-sam-mtocp-01, it is useful to
> > multrans.
> > > Do
> > > you consider dual stack network and/or dual stack source?
> > > How is the status of IRTF's SAMRG group? Is it time to move some of
> > the
> > > research result into IETF now?
> > >
> > >
> > > We keep our promises with one another - no matter what!
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Tina TSOU
> > > http://tinatsou.weebly.com/contact.html
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: KELLIL Mounir [mailto:mounir.kellil@cea.fr]
> > > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 8:10 AM
> > > To: Tina Tsou
> > > Cc: MBONED WG; pim@ietf.org; multrans@ietf.org
> > > Subject: RE: [multrans] Comments on Dual Stack case
> > >
> > > Hi Tina,
> > >
> > > I think the problem you are addressing is interesting. It reminds
> me
> > a
> > > work
> > > we've done in our team a few months ago (an old draft:
> > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kellil-sam-mtocp-01). We addressed
> > the
> > > multicasting problem in a heterogeneous IP network (heterogeneity
> in
> > > terms
> > > of multicast support and IP protocol version). We proposed an
> overlay
> > > paradigm to be applied at the transport layer. Overlay nodes are in
> > > charge
> > > of forwarding traffic, but also translating IPv4 packets into IPv6
> > > packets
> > > and vice versa. Maybe this work (and probably others from IRTF's
> > SAMRG
> > > group) could be quoted as a "state-of-the-art". Just a
> suggestion...
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Mounir KELLIL
> > >
> > > CEA LIST
> > > web : http://www-list.cea.fr
> > >
> > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > De : multrans-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:multrans-bounces@ietf.org]
> > De
> > > la
> > > > part de Tina Tsou
> > > > Envoyé : samedi 30 avril 2011 00:58
> > > > À : multrans@ietf.org
> > > > Cc : 'MBONED WG'; pim@ietf.org
> > > > Objet : [multrans] Comments on Dual Stack case
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > Just bring some comments on the dual stack case for the new
> problem
> > > > statement I-D based on
> > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jaclee-behave-v4v6-mcast-
> > ps/.
> > > > And I
> > > > also suggest the new problem statement I-D being
> > > > draft-jaclee-multrans-v4v6-mcast-ps, since it is not ONLY behave
> > any
> > > > more.
> > > >
> > > > I cc pim@ietf.org and mboned@ietf.org looking for multicast
> > expertise
> > > > to
> > > > help on input to this new problem statement.
> > > >
> > > > Comments on Dual Stack case are below, inspired by talk with
> Stig.
> > > > 1. Even in the native dual stack case, you want to save
> bandwidth,
> > > not
> > > > put
> > > > two copy of bandwidth under one source.
> > > >
> > > > 2. For P2MP case, the receivers are part of IPv4, part of IPv6,
> > this
> > > is
> > > > problem.
> > > >
> > > > 3. For video conference, you have 30 people, 15 are v4, 15 are
> v6,
> > > and
> > > > any
> > > > of them can send their videos (everyone has a webcam and
> > microphone).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We keep our promises with one another - no matter what!
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > Tina TSOU
> > > > http://tinatsou.weebly.com/contact.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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