Re: [dnsext] draft-diao-aip-dns
Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> Tue, 19 June 2012 00:54 UTC
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On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:58 AM, Ondřej Surý wrote: > Hi, > > thanks Tony for pointing that out... > > On 17. 6. 2012, at 19:01, Tony Finch wrote: > >> So this "DNS Extension for Autonomous Internet" caught my eye. There are >> clearly a number of autonomy-related requirements that the DNS does not >> satisfy, such as private/internal names and ad-hoc networking. These are >> currently satisfied by working outside the architecture - BIND's views and >> multicast DNS respectively. >> >> However this draft is not about any of that. It appears to be proposing a >> technical workaround for dissatisfaction with ICANN's management of the >> DNS namespace. > > I am not so sure about the motivations, but I see this draft as dangerous > precedent. Unified DNS tree was and is an important building block of the > Internet and standardizing DNS-split would mean the end of the Internet > as we know it. > >> But it seems to me that none of this is necessary: all it is doing is shifting the namespace down a level. > > > Exactly. And then it would be just a mess - every country would create it's own Internet. > >> That is you can get a similar result [...] using existing technologies. > > > +1 > > not that I promote the usage of existing tools for Internet censorship, > but at least those are just tools, and not the justification to split > the Internet. > > Last, but not least, we (IETF) should produce technical documents > and not political. This is quite nice example of a document which > (in my view) puts priorities of national states over the openness > and overall compatibility of the Internet. Hear hear…. There are a large number of major issues with the document (apart from legibility), but the added complexity and fragility for someone's nationalistic desires are not a reasonable tradeoff. I was also muchly entertained by the Security Considerations and IANA Considerations bits -- wheee, lets bypass the existing (flawed) process and gets our own string by publishing a doc… W > > O. > -- > Ondřej Surý -- Chief Science Officer > ------------------------------------------- > CZ.NIC, z.s.p.o. -- Laboratoře CZ.NIC > Americka 23, 120 00 Praha 2, Czech Republic > mailto:ondrej.sury@nic.cz http://nic.cz/ > tel:+420.222745110 fax:+420.222745112 > ------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > dnsext mailing list > dnsext@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsext -- With Feudalism, it's your Count that votes. _______________________________________________ dnsext mailing list dnsext@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsext
- [dnsext] draft-diao-aip-dns Tony Finch
- Re: [dnsext] draft-diao-aip-dns Ondřej Surý
- Re: [dnsext] draft-diao-aip-dns Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [dnsext] draft-diao-aip-dns Eric Brunner-Williams
- Re: [dnsext] draft-diao-aip-dns Ondřej Surý
- [dnsext] draft-diao-aip-dns Fred Baker
- Re: [dnsext] draft-diao-aip-dns Donald Eastlake
- Re: [dnsext] draft-diao-aip-dns Ralph Droms
- Re: [dnsext] draft-diao-aip-dns Mark Andrews
- Re: [dnsext] draft-diao-aip-dns Warren Kumari
- Re: [dnsext] draft-diao-aip-dns Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [dnsext] draft-diao-aip-dns Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [dnsext] draft-diao-aip-dns Ralph Droms
- Re: [dnsext] draft-diao-aip-dns Mark Andrews
- Re: [dnsext] draft-diao-aip-dns SM
- Re: [dnsext] draft-diao-aip-dns Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [dnsext] draft-diao-aip-dns Doug Barton
- Re: [dnsext] draft-diao-aip-dns Ralph Droms
- Re: [dnsext] draft-diao-aip-dns Eric Brunner-Williams
- Re: [dnsext] draft-diao-aip-dns Jiankang YAO
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- Re: [dnsext] draft-diao-aip-dns YP Diao
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