Re: [dnsext] does making names the same NEED protocol changes at all?

Andrew Sullivan <ajs@shinkuro.com> Fri, 25 February 2011 18:47 UTC

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No hat

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:34:22AM -0800, Nicholas Weaver wrote:
> 
> There is NOTHING which prevents such slaves from forwarding the dynamically signed requests to the master and caching the results and forwarding it on.

Except, of course, that it would be insane, since that would turn the
master into a potential single point of failure for any lookup in the
zone.  A significant reason for the success of the DNS is its loose
consistency and resulting resilience to failure.  Any scheme which
replaces that with a single server is doomed to failure.

A

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