[nasr] Re: 回复: Re: Secure Routing Path Consideration- China Mobile-ietf120

Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca> Sun, 04 August 2024 19:13 UTC

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I don't see anything in your summary of GDPR that says that encrypted PII can
not cross another territory.

At each end the GDPR clearly applies, but for example, I see nothing in your
description that prevents data from Geneva to Bern (both in Switzerland) from
travelling on fiber to the south of Lake Geneva/Leman.  That is, through
France. (is that a better route for fiber? Probably not. But a redundant
microwave link from mountain to mountain would make a lot of sense)
(Or: Zagreb to Bucharest, both EU countries, via Belgrade)
Does GDPR really apply here?

I'm sure such edicts exist, but if GDPR mandates this, it would be best to have
a very specific clause referenced.

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