Re: [nbs] NBS conflict with MEXT

Pete Resnick <presnick@qualcomm.com> Wed, 03 November 2010 14:21 UTC

Return-Path: <presnick@qualcomm.com>
X-Original-To: nbs@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: nbs@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04CC43A6ABD; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 07:21:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -106.599
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HsTEPtXabHBZ; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 07:21:42 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from wolverine01.qualcomm.com (wolverine01.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.254]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C998F3A69C0; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 07:21:42 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qualcomm.com; i=presnick@qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1288794110; x=1320330110; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc: subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; z=Message-ID:=20<4CD16FEA.6060003@qualcomm.com>|Date:=20We d,=203=20Nov=202010=2022:21:30=20+0800|From:=20Pete=20Res nick=20<presnick@qualcomm.com>|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0 =20(Macintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B =20en-US=3B=20rv:1.9.1.9)=20Gecko/20100630=20Eudora/3.0.4 |MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20David=20Harrington=20<ietfdbh@ comcast.net>|CC:=20'The=20IESG'=20<iesg@ietf.org>,=20<nbs @ietf.org>,=20'WG=20Chairs'=0D=0A=09<wgchairs@ietf.org> |Subject:=20Re:=20NBS=20conflict=20with=20MEXT |References:=20<BF345F63074F8040B58C00A186FCA57F29F6C36FE 6@NALASEXMB04.na.qualcomm.com><00EC5F89-8402-446C-A74E-72 F530AF956F@ericsson.com><243735B8-AFCA-4CD3-9364-FFE5ECC6 1766@isi.edu>=09<62D06173-1430-4C9E-B153-F778E8E86686@isi .edu>=20<3C11E378B70942BABE4F9F1123324049@23FX1C1> |In-Reply-To:=20<3C11E378B70942BABE4F9F1123324049@23FX1C1 >|Content-Type:=20text/plain=3B=20charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" =3B=20format=3Dflowed|Content-Transfer-Encoding:=207bit; bh=K4Duuv8hMQXbhXHuTekLfdhSK4AkEj02hyEnZ5akAms=; b=hbbsTlZZZUSscvmjKVnNRY0deLqPWreZmCs+ssXNPK+AUekT85qjvHbI tAJkdFP+K6N6Jbso4JF0nigBdO9FCJy9ZflLT3VCK/hSSl5JUXmeir6WP saL5ociXCA21XZ0dYwW0gogiJ3nlE5KdKPuYpd6grV5TEgM6ChTzsFVv9 k=;
X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5400,1158,6155"; a="60475195"
Received: from ironmsg03-l.qualcomm.com ([172.30.48.18]) by wolverine01.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 03 Nov 2010 07:21:50 -0700
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.58,287,1286175600"; d="scan'208";a="17057835"
Received: from nasanexhub01.na.qualcomm.com ([10.46.93.121]) by Ironmsg03-L.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 03 Nov 2010 07:21:49 -0700
Received: from nasanexmsp01.na.qualcomm.com (10.45.56.204) by nasanexhub01.na.qualcomm.com (10.46.93.121) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.83.0; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 07:21:49 -0700
Received: from Macintosh-4.local (10.46.82.6) by qcmail1.qualcomm.com (10.45.56.204) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.83.0; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 07:21:42 -0700
Message-ID: <4CD16FEA.6060003@qualcomm.com>
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 22:21:30 +0800
From: Pete Resnick <presnick@qualcomm.com>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100630 Eudora/3.0.4
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: David Harrington <ietfdbh@comcast.net>
References: <BF345F63074F8040B58C00A186FCA57F29F6C36FE6@NALASEXMB04.na.qualcomm.com><00EC5F89-8402-446C-A74E-72F530AF956F@ericsson.com><243735B8-AFCA-4CD3-9364-FFE5ECC61766@isi.edu> <62D06173-1430-4C9E-B153-F778E8E86686@isi.edu> <3C11E378B70942BABE4F9F1123324049@23FX1C1>
In-Reply-To: <3C11E378B70942BABE4F9F1123324049@23FX1C1>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Cc: 'WG Chairs' <wgchairs@ietf.org>, 'The IESG' <iesg@ietf.org>, nbs@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [nbs] NBS conflict with MEXT
X-BeenThere: nbs@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: Name based sockets discussion list <nbs.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nbs>, <mailto:nbs-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/nbs>
List-Post: <mailto:nbs@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:nbs-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nbs>, <mailto:nbs-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 14:21:44 -0000

On 11/2/10 7:58 AM, David Harrington wrote:
> NBS touches a wide variety of protocols and layers.
>    
Touching a variety of protocols is a justification to not worry about a 
particular WG it is conflicting with. But layers is a different matter. 
You currently have NBS, ostensibly a protocol which at the very least 
will be serving the Apps layer, conflicting with the Apps *AREA* 
meeting. If most Apps people (and BOTH Apps ADs) cannot be there to 
comment on this BOF, I simply don't see the point in having it.
> The API bridges between an Application and a transport, and work could be done in either area.
>    
You bet. Which is why the almost complete absence of people in one of 
those two areas seems pretty darn goofy.
> As I see it, no matter where you put this BOF, it will conflict with
> some other scheduled sessions.
>    
Again, one thing to conflict with a WG, another to conflict with an 
entire interested area.
> So my tendency is to say, let's just leave the BOF where it is.
>    
I think this is phenomenally short sighted.
> (and I consider the WG-Chairs list the wrong place for this
> discussion. Please use thenbs@ietf.org  list.
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nbs  )
>    

This is a BOF. Chairs who might not be aware of the BOF or have 
particular interest in the work area still might be significant input on 
this kind of conflict.

pr

-- 
Pete Resnick<http://www.qualcomm.com/~presnick/>
Qualcomm Incorporated - Direct phone: (858)651-4478, Fax: (858)651-1102