Re: [MEXT] GRE support in DSMIPv6 - AD review
Hesham Soliman <hesham@elevatemobile.com> Wed, 21 January 2009 07:08 UTC
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From: Hesham Soliman <hesham@elevatemobile.com>
To: Sri Gundavelli <sgundave@cisco.com>
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Errors-To: mext-bounces@ietf.org >>> Leaving the TLV header alone in this draft will provide the
>>> necessary frame work. >> >> => You're not answering the comment I mentioned above Sri. >> > > First, I really feel the pain you had to deal with this draft, > if that makes you feel any better. Its incredible, how many > issues hit this draft at each level. Totally understand your > efforts and that this needs to move. => Thanks. I just have to highlight two points: - I'm expressing my opinion as a member of the WG. In this case I happened to agree with the IESG review. - It's not up to me to reconsider, you've seen the comments from Pasi in the IESG review and you've seen other people's responses agreeing to remove this. Again, I happen to agree with them, but it's not my decision to "reconsider" even if I didn't agree. Also as you noted time is not on our side. > I'm only afraid, we take this out from here, this will never see > the day of the light. If there are some thoughts, on where it will > go and that there will be no issues moving it to the other draft, > that will help and will also not affect the long reached earlier > consensus, phone calls ..etc. => I think it will be fine in NETLMM, you can add it to the IPv4 support work if you like as an extension to DSMIPv6. I can't see why it will be blocked in NETLMM, everyone there seems to be happy with it for PMIPv6. Hesham Again, please reconsider keeping > the TLV, I dont see any reason how that will help moving it out, > moving GRE, I can understand, but TLV, not sure. My 2c. > > > Regards > Sri > > > > >> Else, defining outside and mapping the >>> pre-allocated v4/v6 types, will appear more like a hack. Since, >>> Pasi's comment was more specific to GRE, not sure if it was >>> about the TLV alone, >> >> => Let's not talk about hacks....Pasi strongly suggested that we remove the >> TLV completely and do it for PMIPv6. I think there is enough people who >> already agree with that and I don't see a reason for us to debate this >> endlessly. This draft is long overdue. So, it's best to include this in a >> specific PMIP draft. >> >> >> as there is much text required for TLV >>> nego, or for describing the TLV format, thats already there in >>> the draft. >> >> => Right, you can easily copy and paste it. >> >> Hesham >> >>> >>> Sri >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ MEXT mailing list MEXT@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mext
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- Re: [MEXT] GRE support in DSMIPv6 - AD review George Tsirtsis
- Re: [MEXT] GRE support in DSMIPv6 - AD review Hesham Soliman
- Re: [MEXT] GRE support in DSMIPv6 - AD review George Tsirtsis
- Re: [MEXT] GRE support in DSMIPv6 - AD review Hesham Soliman
- Re: [MEXT] GRE support in DSMIPv6 - AD review George Tsirtsis
- Re: [MEXT] GRE support in DSMIPv6 - AD review Hesham Soliman
- Re: [MEXT] GRE support in DSMIPv6 - AD review George Tsirtsis
- Re: [MEXT] GRE support in DSMIPv6 - AD review Sri Gundavelli
- Re: [MEXT] GRE support in DSMIPv6 - AD review Basavaraj Patil
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- Re: [MEXT] GRE support in DSMIPv6 - AD review Hesham Soliman
- Re: [MEXT] GRE support in DSMIPv6 - AD review Sri Gundavelli
- Re: [MEXT] GRE support in DSMIPv6 - AD review Basavaraj Patil
- Re: [MEXT] GRE support in DSMIPv6 - AD review Sri Gundavelli
- Re: [MEXT] GRE support in DSMIPv6 - AD review Basavaraj Patil
- Re: [MEXT] GRE support in DSMIPv6 - AD review Sri Gundavelli
- Re: [MEXT] GRE support in DSMIPv6 - AD review Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [MEXT] GRE support in DSMIPv6 - AD review Sri Gundavelli
- Re: [MEXT] GRE support in DSMIPv6 - AD review Hesham Soliman
- Re: [MEXT] GRE support in DSMIPv6 - AD review Sri Gundavelli
- Re: [MEXT] GRE support in DSMIPv6 - AD review Hesham Soliman
- Re: [MEXT] GRE support in DSMIPv6 - AD review Sri Gundavelli
- Re: [MEXT] GRE support in DSMIPv6 - AD review Hesham Soliman
- Re: [MEXT] GRE support in DSMIPv6 - AD review Sri Gundavelli
- Re: [MEXT] GRE support in DSMIPv6 - AD review Pasi.Eronen