[Nemops-interest] Re: [Nemops-workshop-attendees] Re: NEMOPS Workshop Report

Wes Hardaker <hardaker@isi.edu> Mon, 03 March 2025 20:29 UTC

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From: Wes Hardaker <hardaker@isi.edu>
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2025 12:29:14 -0800
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Thanks Dhruv, that's certainly better.  And thank you Jürgen for bringing
this up.  I was the one that tried to craft that section and in the end
after reviewing the notes from the final conversation it all really
amounted to one bullet point, which did seem odd to document that way and I
never found a better way.  I think part of the problem is the section title
"Additional work needed".  Maybe a better title, in addition to Dhruv's
improvements, would be "Conclusions that did not reach consensus during the
takeways discussion" so it's very clear it's a subjection of just the key
takeaways section (3.4)?  Thoughts?

On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 5:26 AM Dhruv Dhody <dd@dhruvdhody.com> wrote:

> Hi Jürgen,
>
> On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 4:57 PM Jürgen Schönwälder
> <jschoenwaelder@constructor.university> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for putting this report together. I think it is a decent
>> summary what we talked about. The only thing I find a bit misplaced is
>> section 3.4.5, additional work is apparently needed in many areas and
>> it is unclear why this item 1 is specifically highlighted.
>>
>>
> Dhruv: This section is meant to capture points that remained unresolved
> during live editing of key takeaways (section 3.4). I’ll add some
> clarifying text to my working copy on GitHub.
>
>
> https://github.com/intarchboard/draft-iab-nemops-workshop-report/commit/4d15fd93201d80bcdc3076f75c7f8ccb31ffb858
> <https://urldefense.us/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_intarchboard_draft-2Diab-2Dnemops-2Dworkshop-2Dreport_commit_4d15fd93201d80bcdc3076f75c7f8ccb31ffb858&d=DwMFaQ&c=qzHnJIRvjI6L-clJH8JwLQvf_Iq43fzikf6aoxZgMb8&r=0c5g_jBisMd0Mvrv260WjCsDo_lphr-fsVao5L9S4DI&m=NTtW9VH7rWRyeReZ1x112VLCaemPtL2Qz0Jj0OGTAD9m0T7CnW8Q9IumBz9nb-mF&s=F5uI2ZGfgVT_Vukux46BZKph79bV7Hb_uEmGCwhRkpc&e=>
>
> Thanks!
> Dhruv
>
>
>
>
>> /js
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 12:02:30PM +0530, Dhruv Dhody wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Wes and I have posted the initial version of the NEMOPS Workshop Report
>> -
>> >
>> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-iab-nemops-workshop-report/
>> <https://urldefense.us/v2/url?u=https-3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_draft-2Diab-2Dnemops-2Dworkshop-2Dreport_&d=DwMFaQ&c=qzHnJIRvjI6L-clJH8JwLQvf_Iq43fzikf6aoxZgMb8&r=0c5g_jBisMd0Mvrv260WjCsDo_lphr-fsVao5L9S4DI&m=NTtW9VH7rWRyeReZ1x112VLCaemPtL2Qz0Jj0OGTAD9m0T7CnW8Q9IumBz9nb-mF&s=ULfpKooWVyvASwFWQDEfWWem_moxKEJTzlJ-z7NcR7A&e=>
>> >
>> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-iab-nemops-workshop-report-01.html
>> <https://urldefense.us/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ietf.org_archive_id_draft-2Diab-2Dnemops-2Dworkshop-2Dreport-2D01.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=qzHnJIRvjI6L-clJH8JwLQvf_Iq43fzikf6aoxZgMb8&r=0c5g_jBisMd0Mvrv260WjCsDo_lphr-fsVao5L9S4DI&m=NTtW9VH7rWRyeReZ1x112VLCaemPtL2Qz0Jj0OGTAD9m0T7CnW8Q9IumBz9nb-mF&s=qy-3tA-m3cMJc0ZWx7qUJH-PqU7qEivfoM-M8IQAglc&e=>
>> >
>> > We’d appreciate your feedback, ideally on the nemops-interest@iab.org
>> list
>> > or directly to the authors. You can also submit a PR on GitHub:
>> >
>> > https://github.com/intarchboard/draft-iab-nemops-workshop-report
>> <https://urldefense.us/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_intarchboard_draft-2Diab-2Dnemops-2Dworkshop-2Dreport&d=DwMFaQ&c=qzHnJIRvjI6L-clJH8JwLQvf_Iq43fzikf6aoxZgMb8&r=0c5g_jBisMd0Mvrv260WjCsDo_lphr-fsVao5L9S4DI&m=NTtW9VH7rWRyeReZ1x112VLCaemPtL2Qz0Jj0OGTAD9m0T7CnW8Q9IumBz9nb-mF&s=4GM5--2O_fsnGn_KkS3ZvJOezcp1ANtFOW_mYNw1G5I&e=>
>> >
>> > Reminder: The report summarizes the proceedings of the workshop and does
>> > not necessarily reflect the IAB’s views or positions.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> > Dhruv & Wes
>>
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