[netconf] Re: [IANA #1379432] RE: I-D Action: draft-boucadair-netconf-port-numbers-00.txt

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Thread-Topic: [IANA #1379432] RE: [netconf] I-D Action: draft-boucadair-netconf-port-numbers-00.txt
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Hi Amanda, Zahed,

Any update about this request?

Thank you.

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET
> Envoyé : lundi 7 octobre 2024 16:38
> À : 'iana-issues@iana.org' <iana-issues@iana.org>
> Cc : netconf@ietf.org; mjethanandani@gmail.com; kent@watsen.net;
> zahed.sarker.ietf@gmail.com
> Objet : RE: [IANA #1379432] RE: [netconf] I-D Action: draft-
> boucadair-netconf-port-numbers-00.txt
> 
> Hi Amanda, all,
> 
> Thank you for sharing this feedback.
> 
> Great to hear that we don't need an RFC for the fixes in
> 3.1/3.2/3.3.
> 
> As a logistic matter, can we use this discussion to trigger the
> process of examining the requested actions? (seeks for AD
> approvals/experts, etc.)
> 
> Cheers,
> Med
> 
> PS: I updated the draft to remove 3.4 as that one is not actually
> needed.
> 
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : Sabrina Tanamal via RT <iana-issues@iana.org> Envoyé :
> vendredi 4
> > octobre 2024 19:55 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET
> > <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> Cc : netconf@ietf.org;
> > mjethanandani@gmail.com; kent@watsen.net;
> zahed.sarker.ietf@gmail.com
> > Objet : [IANA #1379432] RE: [netconf] I-D Action: draft-
> boucadair-
> > netconf-port-numbers-00.txt
> >
> > Hi Med, all,
> >
> > Thanks for the note.
> >
> > Looping in Zahed, the WIT AD, for input.
> >
> > Ordinarily, to release or change registrations made by an RFC,
> IANA
> > needs either another RFC or directions from the IESG (such as a
> status
> > change document or, rarely, a decision at a telechat, which
> might not
> > result in a useful reference beyond a quick statement in the
> official
> > minutes).
> >
> > It may be possible to take care of most of these without an
> RFC,
> > though.
> >
> > Section 3.1: RFC 6262 didn't tell us to register the UDP port.
> If the
> > UDP registration is erroneous, we could ask the AD (as opposed
> to
> > IESG) approval to confirm that it could be listed as "Reserved"
> > instead (per our standard procedure when only the TCP port is
> > registered). The AD might suggest consulting the port expert
> before
> > moving forward.
> >
> > Sections 3.2 and 3.3: I see that the status for 4743 and 4744
> was
> > changed to "historic" in 2012. Currently, when we see a status
> change
> > -- I'm not sure when this one came through -- we ask whether
> any
> > registrations should be marked "deprecated" or "obsolete." We
> didn't
> > do this at the time. We could also ask the ADs if we could
> proceed
> > with the actions in Sections 3.2 and 3.3 now based on the
> > de-assignment procedure recommendation in Section
> > 8.2 of RFC 6335. As noted above, this may also require
> consultation
> > with the port expert.
> >
> > Section 3.4: given that draft-ietf-netconf-over-tls13 is in the
> RFC
> > Editor's queue, is it possible to update that document's IANA
> > Considerations section to refer to RFC 8446 instead of itself?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Sabrina
> >
> > On Tue Oct 01 10:08:59 2024, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com
> wrote:
> > > Hi Kent, all,
> > >
> > > Cool, thanks.
> > >
> > > I don't know whether we actually need a document to "fix"
> this.
> > I'm
> > > adding IANA and our AD for advice on how to proceed for these
> > matters.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Med
> > >
> > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > De : Kent Watsen <kent@watsen.net> Envoyé : jeudi 26
> septembre
> > > > 2024 16:37 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET
> > > > <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> Cc : netconf@ietf.org
> > Objet
> > > > : Re: [netconf] I-D Action: draft-boucadair-netconf-port-
> > > > numbers-00.txt
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Med,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for initiating this effort.  Honestly, I didn’t
> know
> > that
> > > > those unnecessary allocations existed.  It is goodness to
> > release
> > > > unneeded allocations.
> > > >
> > > > Kent / contributor
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Sep 26, 2024, at 8:50 AM, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > An attempt to clean up NETCONF-related assignments,
> > especially
> > > > for those in 0-1023 range. We might consider repurposing
> some
> > of
> > > > them (e.g., QUIC).
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Med
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > > De : internet-drafts@ietf.org <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
> > Envoyé
> > > > :
> > > > > jeudi 26 septembre 2024 14:40 À : i-d-announce@ietf.org
> > Objet :
> > > > I-D
> > > > > Action: draft-boucadair-netconf-port-numbers-00.txt
> > > > >
> > > > > Internet-Draft draft-boucadair-netconf-port-numbers-
> 00.txt
> > is
> > > > now available.
> > > > >
> > > > > Title:   NETCONF Transport Port Numbers
> > > > > Author:  Mohamed Boucadair
> > > > > Name:    draft-boucadair-netconf-port-numbers-00.txt
> > > > > Pages:   9
> > > > > Dates:   2024-09-26
> > > > >
> > > > > Abstract:
> > > > >
> > > > > This document releases NETCONF-related port number IANA
> > > > assignments
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> for
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