Re: [netconf] Adoption call for draft-kwatsen-netconf-http-client-server-04

Schönwälder, Jürgen <J.Schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Thu, 14 November 2019 12:01 UTC

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To: Kent Watsen <kent+ietf@watsen.net>
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Subject: Re: [netconf] Adoption call for draft-kwatsen-netconf-http-client-server-04
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On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 11:35:00AM +0000, Kent Watsen wrote:
> 
> As for the title and module name, it seems the simplest thing is:
> 
> 	OLD:
> 		title: 	Groupings for HTTP Clients and Servers
> 		module: 	ietf-http-client
> 		module: 	ietf-http-server
> 
> 	NEW:
> 		title: 	Groupings for RESTful HTTP Clients and Servers
> 		module: 	ietf-restful-http-client
> 		module: 	ietf-restful-http-server
> 
> But isn't there also an issue of names being overly specific?  Some may ask why the draft is limited to RESTful HTTP, being that it only configures endpoints and has nothing to do with if the application is RESTful or not.
>

I do not think we should open the door to discussions what is RESTful
and what is not... Perhaps we need something like "RESTCONF and
similar" - not a serious proposal. ;-)

/js

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