Re: [Netconf] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-netconf-zerotouch-25: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu> Wed, 09 January 2019 22:00 UTC

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Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2019 16:00:07 -0600
From: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>
To: Dave Crocker <dcrocker@bbiw.net>
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Subject: Re: [Netconf] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-netconf-zerotouch-25: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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On Wed, Jan 09, 2019 at 01:48:18PM -0800, Dave Crocker wrote:
> On 1/9/2019 1:06 PM, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
> >> I believe your analysis is correct.
> >>
> >> In the names your draft uses, _tcp is the global scoped name, relevant
> >> to attrleaf, while _sztp is subordinate and therefore not relevant to
> >> attrleaf.
> > That's true for both
> > SRV in _sztp._tcp.example.com.
> > and
> > TXT in <serial number>._sztp._tcp.example.com.
> > but it's not clear to me that the "existing" TXT _tcp registration is
> > appropriate for our usage here.
> 
> 
> I'm pretty sure it is.
> 
>  > TXT        | _tcp                | [RFC6763]
> 
> The existing entry for TXT/_tcp in the attrleaf registry reserves the 
> global use of _tcp and assigned responsibility for it to RFC 6763.

Right.

But RFC 6763 is DNS Service Discovery, whose TXT records have a particular
structure, defined in its (subsections of) Section 6.  That is not what's
going on here.

So what should the attrleaf registry say about TXT _tcp that would actually
be relevant for our usage?

-Benjamin

> Worrying about reservation of the /global/ scoped names is the limit to 
> the scope of attrleaf.
> 
> It intentionally punts on any concern for /subordinate/ underscored 
> names, which become the responsibility of the specification to which the 
> reserved globally-scoped RR/name combination has been assigned.
> 
> 
> d/
> 
> -- 
> Dave Crocker
> Brandenburg InternetWorking
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