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To: Mahesh Jethanandani <mjethanandani@gmail.com>, Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com>
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[As the contrib who edited the source PSK structures]

Agreed w/these same notions.  The PSKs are fundamentally different, thus if you are not intending backward-support (since backward compatibility isn't exactly relevant), then I'd recommend removing the TLS 1.2 bits prior to publication.  It's usually easier to augment something in later, than to have to constantly deviate it out once published.

My $0.02;
-Jeff


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Subject: Re: [netconf] draft-ietf-netconf-udp-notif: YANG model question

[As a contributor] Hi Sean, Good catch! If there are existing deployments of TLS 1.2, I wonder if there is a reason why the draft would target TLS 1.3 only. But I would imagine that if TLS 1.2 is out
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Hi Sean,



Good catch!



If there are existing deployments of TLS 1.2, I wonder if there is a reason why the draft would target TLS 1.3 only. But I would imagine that if TLS 1.2 is out of scope for any reason, then then the model should remove the 1.2 entries from the model.



Thanks



>

> On Jul 28, 2022, at 1:36 PM, Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> wrote:

>

> Hi! draft-ietf-netconf-udp-notif specifically targets DTLS 1.3. The YANG model is basically lifted from draft-ietf-netconf-tls-client-server and that model has fields for both TLS 1.2 and 1.3. Should the 1.2 entries be deleted from the draft-ietf-netconf-udp-notif model or is it safe to leave them since they are optional and won’t be used?

>

> Seee:

>

> +--rw client-identity!

> |  +--rw (auth-type)

> |     +--:(certificate) {client-ident-x509-cert}?

> |     |     ...

> |     +--:(raw-public-key) {client-ident-raw-public-key}?

> |     |     ...

> |     +--:(tls12-psk) {client-ident-tls12-psk}?

> |     |     ...

> |     +--:(tls13-epsk) {client-ident-tls13-epsk}?

>

> …

>

> Cheers,

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