Re: [netconf] netconf-https-notif-draft HTTP "pipelining"

Reshad Rahman <reshad@yahoo.com> Fri, 22 January 2021 19:47 UTC

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From: Reshad Rahman <reshad@yahoo.com>
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Hi Mahesh,

 

Since draft-ietf-netconf-notification-messages is in parked state, and expired 8 months ago, should the netconf-https-notif document be using bundled messages? But I don’t know the reason why it’s in parked state and whether it’ll be in drive mode soon.

 

Regards,

Reshad.

 

From: netconf <netconf-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Mahesh Jethanandani <mjethanandani@gmail.com>
Date: Friday, January 22, 2021 at 2:08 PM
To: Henning Rogge <hrogge@gmail.com>
Cc: Netconf <netconf@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [netconf] netconf-https-notif-draft HTTP "pipelining"

 

Hi Henning,

 

The draft was trying to address the question of “pipelining” using two methods. One is the equivalent of “HTTP 1.1 pipelining” and the other is concept of “bundled-messages” introduced by draft-ietf-netconf-notification-messages. In the process it mixed both of them, and thus the contradiction in the example in section 1.5.1.

 

Let me update the document to fix the example(s), at which point the WG can decide if they want to support one or both the methods.

 

Thanks.



On Jan 13, 2021, at 11:29 PM, Henning Rogge <hrogge@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Hi,

I had a longer discussion with Kent Watsen yesterday and he asked me
to get the questions about the netconf-https-notif-draft to the
mailing list:

In section 1.5.1 the draft talks about "pipelining" of messages. Is
this meant equivalent to "HTTP 1.1 pipelining" or is this just a
technique unique to the draft? If this is not something reused from
HTTP, maybe there should be some advice on how this interacts with
normal HTTP server/client code.

Also the example in 1.5.1 seems to contradict each other.

The overview (page 5) shows the Publisher sending HTTPS POST message
once for each notification (which I think is important because the URL
is part of the context of the message)... but the content description
(page 6) does only show a single POST with multiple responses. Same is
true for chapter 8.3.

Henning Rogge

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