Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications-12
Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Wed, 13 June 2018 06:02 UTC
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From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
To: Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net>
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Subject: Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications-12
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On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 10:45:16PM +0000, Kent Watsen wrote: > > I'm okay with separation. On one hand, it seems like common English, but > it might be good to have it well-defined in this draft. Still it seems > that the definition could be improved, maybe by contrasting it to an event? > One is the what happened, the other a record about what happened... > Regarding terminology: Configured subscription: A subscription installed via configuration into a configuration datastore. OK Dynamic subscription: A subscription agreed between subscriber and publisher created via an "establish-subscription" RPC. Try to define what it is, avoiding tying it into a specific RPC. Event record: A set of information detailing an event. Event stream: A continuous, chronologically ordered set of events aggregated under some context. Notification message: Information intended for a receiver indicating that one or more event(s) have occurred. RFC 7950 does not define 'notification' in the terminology section (it probably should). But RFC 6241 has this definition: o notification: A server-initiated message indicating that a certain event has been recognized by the server. So how do 'event record' and 'notification' relate to each other? Are RFC 6241 notifications the same as notifications defined here? If so, why not use a common definition? (It seems RFC 5277 likes to talk about 'event notifications' - so we even have a third term for what may be the same.) /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <https://www.jacobs-university.de/>
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Tianran Zhou
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Tianran Zhou
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Alexander Clemm
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Henk Birkholz
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Alexander Clemm
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Alexander Clemm
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Kent Watsen
- [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subscrib… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)