Re: [Netconf] [netmod] magic leaf 'type' in IETF interfaces

Balázs Lengyel <balazs.lengyel@ericsson.com> Mon, 17 December 2018 09:06 UTC

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From: Balázs Lengyel <balazs.lengyel@ericsson.com>
To: Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com>, "jason.sterne@nokia.com" <jason.sterne@nokia.com>
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Hello,

While I agree with Martin, in our systems we have a number of places, where the system does create configuration in running, due to

  • different levels of automation and autonomous algorithms kick-in
  • the created config needs to be possible to be further modified by the operator
  • the created config needs to be referenced from operator created config
  • the created config is not always ephemeral, it might need to be part of backup/restore

regards Balazs

On 2018. 12. 17. 9:15, Martin Bjorklund wrote:
The rule of thumb is to avoid server created config as much as
possible.


/martin
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Balazs Lengyel                       Ericsson Hungary Ltd.
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