Re: [netconf] WG LC for three drafts

tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com> Wed, 17 June 2020 07:54 UTC

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From: tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com>
To: Mahesh Jethanandani <mjethanandani@gmail.com>, Netconf <netconf@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [netconf] WG LC for three drafts
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From: netconf <netconf-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Mahesh Jethanandani <mjethanandani@gmail.com>
Sent: 17 June 2020 00:37

The WGLC on these three drafts has received insufficient review at this time. I am going to extend the LC by another week to allow for more review of these documents. While specific comments would be great, even saying “I have reviewed the draft, and support its publication” is helpful.

<tp>
Sorry to be contrary but I have reviewed the draft and do not support publication was my take on  the types as I want to read text before I reverse engineer the YANG.  For all three, and probably for those yet to come, I think that they all need something that places them in context because there are so many of them and they interact.  The ASCII diagram in them currently is likely fine for those of us who have seen them evolve but likely inadequate for those outside the WG.  (Of course those who are new to the I-D will not have the baggage of history and so may not have such a problem:-)  Think of the TSVWG author who wants to know where to find what to include in their model.  Should there be a separate  I-D providing an introduction?  May be.
Tom Petch




As a reminder, we are following option 3 in this message<https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/netconf/UDNkN5SOmeDaHA5pHYhe-v0l6MI/>I/>. What that means is that once Kent has updated the tcp-client-server draft, it will be added to this set of drafts for LC before 108. The remaining drafts, ssh-client-server, tls-client-server http-client-server, netconf-client-server, restconf-client-server will be sent for LC after 108.

Thanks.

On Jun 2, 2020, at 4:48 PM, Mahesh Jethanandani <mjethanandani@gmail.com<mailto:mjethanandani@gmail.com>> wrote:

NETCONF WG,

The authors of

- draft-ietf-netconf-crypto-types
- draft-ietf-netconf-keystore
- draft-ietf-netconf-trust-anchors

have indicated that these drafts are ready for Last Call (LC).

This kicks of a 2 week WG LC for the three drafts. Please review and send any comments to the WG mailing list or by responding to this e-mail. Comments can be statements such as, I read/reviewed the document and believe it is ready for publication, or I have concerns about the document. For the latter, please indicate what your concerns are.

Any reports on implementation status or plans to implement are also very useful.

Thanks.


Mahesh Jethanandani (as co-chair)
mjethanandani@gmail.com<mailto:mjethanandani@gmail.com>