Re: [Netconf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netconf-yang-push-20.txt

Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net> Thu, 13 December 2018 18:30 UTC

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From: Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net>
To: Henk Birkholz <henk.birkholz@sit.fraunhofer.de>, "netconf@ietf.org" <netconf@ietf.org>
CC: Ignas Bagdonas <ibagdona@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Netconf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netconf-yang-push-20.txt
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Henk,

The status is "WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up".  I don't think that much on-list discussion is expected when a draft is in this state.

More importantly, as I said in the mic in Bangkok (I believe you were in the room), it will be very difficult for me (as the designated shepherd) to do the writeups this year.    I did ask the room, and Ignas seconded, for shepherd volunteers.  We did get a volunteer for the "notif" drafts, but not the others.  Would you like to help?

I am also waiting for the authors to provide scripts to validate all the examples in the drafts.  I sent this request to the authors a couple times now, last time ~2 weeks ago.  So far there has been no response.

Kent


-----Original Message-----
From: Netconf <netconf-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Henk Birkholz <henk.birkholz@sit.fraunhofer.de>
Date: Thursday, December 13, 2018 at 8:44 AM
To: NETCONF Working Group <netconf@ietf.org>
Cc: Ignas Bagdonas <ibagdona@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Netconf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netconf-yang-push-20.txt

Hello all,

this work seems to have stopped to a grinding halt, again. IoT 
Directorate hat on, I would like to know the reasons, as they seem to be 
quite unfathomable to me, personally.

I would like to see a status report from the chairs why the 
"push-drafts" were not pushed forward. I would also like to see a 
summary of open items wrt to the WG state (to pick an 
example:ietf-netconf-yang-push was updated Okt 26th and the WG state is: 
WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up (wg milestone: Sep 2018 - WGLC for 
YANG Push).

Is there still a gap between consensus and write-up?

Taking into account the sheer amount of discussion, review and (I am a 
bit saddened that I think I have to highlight that again) urgency, I am 
very surprised that I am having such a hard time assessing the current 
state based on the list and github.

Please excuse me, if I am missing something very obvious here. I have to 
admit, I am growing more and more concerned about the relevance of 
contributions wrt YANG Telemetry created here in the last years.

Please clarify.

Viele Grüße,

Henk

On 10/23/18 1:28 AM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> 
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Network Configuration WG of the IETF.
> 
>          Title           : Subscription to YANG Datastores
>          Authors         : Alexander Clemm
>                            Eric Voit
>                            Alberto Gonzalez Prieto
>                            Ambika Prasad Tripathy
>                            Einar Nilsen-Nygaard
>                            Andy Bierman
>                            Balazs Lengyel
> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-netconf-yang-push-20.txt
> 	Pages           : 57
> 	Date            : 2018-10-22
> 
> Abstract:
>     Via the mechanism described in this document, subscriber applications
>     may request a continuous, customized stream of updates from a YANG
>     datastore.  Providing such visibility into updates enables new
>     capabilities based on the remote mirroring and monitoring of
>     configuration and operational state.
> 
> 
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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