[netconf] Re: YANG Groupings for QUIC clients and QUIC servers

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Thread-Topic: [netconf] YANG Groupings for QUIC clients and QUIC servers
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Subject: [netconf] Re: YANG Groupings for QUIC clients and QUIC servers
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Re-,

Please see one comment inline.

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Per Andersson <per.ietf@ionio.se>
> Envoyé : mardi 2 juillet 2024 15:28
> À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>
> Cc : netconf@ietf.org
> Objet : Re: [netconf] YANG Groupings for QUIC clients and QUIC
> servers
> 
> 
> Hi Med,
> 
> On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 6:43 AM <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Per,
> >
> > Thank you for sharing.
> 
> Thank you for reviewing!
> 
> 
> > The current groupings do not include QUIC specifics, which is
> OK for -00 to trigger the discussion.
> 
> That was my intention. :-)
> 
> 
> > If the intent is to document very basic groupings (current -00
> scope), then I see commonalities with schemes where UDP/DTLS is
> used (see for example draft-ietf-netconf-udp-notif). I think that
> it is worth to factorize here rather than having another yet
> document for that specific scope. I tend to suggest the
> following:
> >
> > * Consider updating draft-ietf-netconf-udp-client-server with
> reusable
> > UDP+(D)TLS groupings + define dtls1.2/1.3/quic features
> > * Arrange the DTLS container in draft-ietf-netconf-udp-notif to
> call
> > reusable groupings in draft-ietf-netconf-udp-client-server
> >
> > This is basically about rearranging the content between these
> two documents, but the content is almost there.
> 
> There are specifics that one could want to configure that would
> tie into other work in the NETCONF WG.
> 
> For instance the following are specific to QUIC, but could be
> benefitial for NETCONF, RESTCONF, https-notif, if they opt to use
> QUIC or HTTP/3 as a transport: supported QUIC version, max idle
> timeout, initial max data, various flow control parameters, max
> incoming streams, various other QUIC transport parameters and
> possible extensions.

[Med] These falls more under the spirit of draft-ietf-tcpm-yang-tcp. Other candidate specifics are: PMTU, manage features related to DATAGRAM/STREAM, CID control for load-balancing purposes, CID renewal policy, multipath support, proxing, etc. Not all of these will need to be covered, though.

> 
> I think there are enough QUIC specifics to warrant another
> client-server document with reusable groupings for configuring
> QUIC clients and servers, instead of adding them to udp-client-
> server.

[Med] I was not suggesting to add QUIC specifics to the udp-client-server :-) My proposal was specific to the current groupings in -00 which are not specific to QUIC and can be used for UDP/DTLS schemes as well.

> 
> 
> > If the intent is to define something similar to draft-ietf-
> tcpm-yang-tcp, then there are plenty QUIC specifics that can be
> covered. I suspect that effort should be done with/in QUIC WG.
> 
> I will look into draft-ietf-tcpm-yang-tcp.
> 
> 
> --
> Per
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