Re: [Netconf] Reminder: Action by Dec 20th 2013 PLEASE: Draft charter after consensus call

Hi,

I agree with Dan that starting a RESTCONF effort in the same WG could be
destabilizing.
I think it might be better to do this work in a separate WG that works
closely with NETCONF.

David Harrington
ietfdbh@comcast.net
+1-603-828-1401

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Netconf [mailto:netconf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Romascanu,
> Dan (Dan)
> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 9:18 AM
> To: Bert Wijnen (IETF); Netconf
> Subject: Re: [Netconf] Reminder: Action by Dec 20th 2013 PLEASE: Draft
> charter after consensus call
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I raised questions in Vancouver about the wisdom of doing RESTCONF in the
> same WG as NETCONF. I still think that RESTCONF is a different protocol,
and
> that doing two protocols - the continuation of the development of NETCONF
> and a new protocol RESTCONF - in the same WG called NETCONF may be
> confusing for people who are not part of this community, and create doubts
> about the status and stability of NETCONF. I acknowledge that I am on the
> rough part of the consensus.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Netconf [mailto:netconf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bert
> Wijnen
> > (IETF)
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 12:40 PM
> > To: Netconf
> > Subject: [Netconf] Reminder: Action by Dec 20th 2013 PLEASE: Draft
> > charter after consensus call
> >
> > We've had many emails on our WG mailing list, so maybe this one did
> > escape your attention. Please let us (WG hcairs) know if you have any
> > issues with this draft new WG charter. If we do not hear any by Dec
> > 20th, we will pss it to our AD for approval by th IESG.
> >
> > It is always nice to hear that WG participants do agree too!
> >
> > Bert and Mehmet
> >
> > On 12/11/13 2:56 PM, Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich) wrote:
> > > Dear NETCONF WG,
> > > we had two consensus calls ended on December 4, 2013.
> > >
> > >   * Verifing session consensus with the maillist on RFC5539bis new
> > port and YANG module separation
> > >     _http://www.ietf.org/mail-
> > archive/web/netconf/current/msg08445.html_
> > >   * Verifing session consensus on RESTCONF as WG item with the
> > maillist
> > >
> > > _http://www.ietf.org/mail-
> archive/web/netconf/current/msg08444.html_
> > >
> > > The co-chairs think that there was support for the action points and
> > no objections to the consensus from the Vancouver NETCONF session.
> > > We think we can go one step further.The co-chairs agreed to have
> > Reverse SSH as a separate document for the time being.
> > > Below is the relevant part of the draft charter. Please comment by
> > December 20, 2013 EOB PT.
> > > We will then pass it on to our AD for approval by IESG.
> > > Bert & Mehmet
> > > ---------------
> > >    In the current phase of NETCONF's incremental development the
> > workgroup
> > >    will focus on following items:
> > >    1. Develop the call home mechanism for the mandatory SSH binding
> > (Reverse
> > >    SSH) providing a server-initiated session establishment.
> > >    2. Advance NETCONF over TLS to be in-line with NETCONF 1.1 (i.e.,
> > update
> > >    RFC 5539) and add the call home mechanism to provide a server-
> > initiated
> > >    session establishment.
> > >    3. Combine the server configuration data models from Reverse SSH
> > and
> > >    RFC5539bis drafts in a separate YANG module.
> > >    4. Develop a RESTful protocol (RESTCONF) that provides a
> > programmatic
> > >    interface for accessing data defined in YANG, using the datastores
> > >    defined in NETCONF. The two parts concerning RESTCONF protocol over
> > >    HTTP and the YANG patch operation will be prepared in separate
> > drafts.
> > > Goals and Milestones:
> > >    Jan 2014 - Submit initial WG drafts for RESTCONF as WG item
> > >    Apr 2014 - WGLC for RFC5539bis
> > >    Apr 2014 - WGLC for Reverse SSH
> > >    Apr 2014 - WGLC for NETCONF server configuration data model
> > >    May 2014 - Submit Reverse SSH to AD/IESG for consideration as
> > Proposed Standard
> > >    May 2014 - Submit RFC5539bis to AD/IESG for consideration as
> > Proposed Standard
> > >    Jun 2014 - WGLC for RESTCONF
> > >    Aug 2014 - Submit RESTCONF to AD/IESG for consideration as Proposed
> > > Standard
> > >
> > >
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