Re: [netconf] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications-23: (with DISCUSS)

Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> Tue, 30 April 2019 08:32 UTC

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From: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>
To: "Eric Voit (evoit)" <evoit@cisco.com>, Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>
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Subject: Re: [netconf] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications-23: (with DISCUSS)
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Hi,

I think it should be avoided if possible to add the pre-5378
boilerplate, it is better to get the rights. Especially in this
situation where there has been many version published stating that the
rights have been had. Is there a problem of getting the rights?

Cheers

Magnus

On 2019-04-29 21:31, Eric Voit (evoit) wrote:
> ipr="pre5378Trust200902"
>
> change made and uploaded as v24
>
> Eric
>
>> From: Benjamin Kaduk, April 29, 2019 2:25 PM
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 05:58:19PM +0000, Eric Voit (evoit) wrote:
>>> Hi Benjamin,
>>>
>>> I think you are asking why the following boilerplate text wasn't included...
>>>
>>>    This document may contain material from IETF Documents or IETF
>>>    Contributions published or made publicly available before November
>>>    10, 2008.  The person(s) controlling the copyright in some of this
>>>    material may not have granted the IETF Trust the right to allow
>>>    modifications of such material outside the IETF Standards Process.
>>>    Without obtaining an adequate license from the person(s) controlling
>>>    the copyright in such materials, this document may not be modified
>>>    outside the IETF Standards Process, and derivative works of it may
>>>    not be created outside the IETF Standards Process, except to format
>>>    it for publication as an RFC or to translate it into languages other
>>>    than English.
>> Exactly so.
>>
>>> This was likely an oversight during the initial author's submission.  If this text
>> was included and uploaded as a -24 update, would that cover your concern?
>>
>> Definitely.
>> (Note that there's an XML keyword for this; IIRC, <rfc [...]
>> ipr="pre5378Trust200902">.)
>>
>>> BTW: the same boilerplate update should also be made to
>>> draft-ietf-netconf-netconf-event-notification  and
>>> draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-notif
>> Thanks for spotting those early!
>>
>> -Ben
>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Benjamin Kaduk via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org>;
>>>> Subject: Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-
>>>> notifications-23: (with DISCUSS)
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> --
>>>> DISCUSS:
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> [putting this out early in the hopes it can be resolved quickly; I'm
>>>> just starting to review the document.]
>>>>
>>>> This document started life as a rfc5277bis, published in July 2008,
>>>> before RFC
>>>> 5378 (BCP 78) was published in November of 2008.  If we are using
>>>> any text from RFC 5277 and did not gain the additional rights
>>>> declaration from the authors of that document, this document needs
>>>> to use a different boilerplate text (the "pre- 2008" text).  I look
>>>> at the sibling document draft-ietf-netfonf-yang-push of this
>>>> document, which does use the pre-2008 boilerplate, and am having a hard
>> time understanding why this document does not also have the pre-2008
>> boilerplate.
>>>>
>>>>
>

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