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In June James C. one of the author on this draft invited me to read it and contribute, so here I am. I will send my questions and remarks one by one in different e-mails (I have about 9 of them). I am pretty available this week and the next one. When I first read the draft, I was puzzled by the source code management (SCM) systems analogies, stating that the NETCONF was like a SCM merge. Only later did I read that, in this draft the operation is different from RFC6241: an implicit is issued first. This major change appears first in the 4.3 section. It also appears in 4.7.2.11 and in a few other places. This is also briefly mentionned in 1.2 that is augmented without details. To me, this change is quite important, and should be mentionned sooner and made clearer in the draft. I propose one change, in section 2.3: "Obtaining this private candidate over NETCONF or RESTCONF will display the entire configuration, including all changes made to it. Performing a operation will merge the changes from the private candidate into the running configuration (the same as a merge in source code management systems). A operation will revert the private candidate to the branch's initial state or it's state at the last (whichever is most recent)." could be augmented by (copying from 4.3): "Obtaining this private candidate over NETCONF or RESTCONF will display the entire configuration, including all changes made to it. A operation will revert the private candidate to the branch's initial state or it's state at the last (whichever is most recent). Performing a operation will merge the changes from the private candidate into the running configuration (the same as a merge in source code management systems). This merge is done in two steps : first an implicit operation is issued, resyncing changes from the running configuration into the private candidate (more details on this later in this document), and then the running configuration is replaced by this updated private candidate. In that sense, the private candidate operation as described in this document is different from the simpler operation as defined in [RFC6241] (which is equivalent to a simple copy-config operation)." And shorter alternative would be to underline that the operation is different from RFC6241 and point to 4.2.7.11. What do you think? Best regards, Dylan Sadoun Orange Restricted ------=_NextPart_001_006C_01DAE2A1.3DF02010 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello there. = In June James C. one of the author on this draft invited me to read it = and contribute, so here I am.

 

I will send = my questions and remarks one by one in different e-mails (I have about 9 = of them). I am pretty available this week and the next = one.

 

When I first = read the draft, I was puzzled by the source code management (SCM) = systems analogies, stating that the NETCONF <commit> was like a = SCM merge. Only later did I read that, in this draft the <commit> = operation is different from RFC6241: an implicit <update> is = issued first.

 

This major = <commit/> change appears first in the 4.3 section. It also appears = in 4.7.2.11 and in a few other places. This is also briefly mentionned = in 1.2 that <commit> is augmented without = details.

 

To me, this = change is quite important, and should be mentionned sooner and made = clearer in the draft.

 

I propose = one change, in section 2.3:

 

"Obtaini= ng this private candidate over NETCONF or RESTCONF will display the = entire configuration, including all changes made to it. Performing a = <commit> operation will merge the changes from the private = candidate into the running configuration (the same as a merge in source = code management systems). A <discard-changes> operation will = revert the private candidate to the branch's initial state or it's state = at the last <commit> (whichever is most = recent)."

 

could be = augmented by (copying from 4.3):

 

"Obtaini= ng this private candidate over NETCONF or RESTCONF will display the = entire configuration, including all changes made to it. A = <discard-changes> operation will revert the private candidate to = the branch's initial state or it's state at the last <commit> = (whichever is most recent).

Performing a = <commit> operation will merge the changes from the private = candidate into the running configuration (the same as a merge in source = code management systems). This merge is done in two steps : first an = implicit <update> operation is issued, resyncing changes from the = running configuration into the private candidate (more details on this = later in this document), and then the running configuration is replaced = by this updated private candidate. In that sense, the private candidate = <commit> operation as described in this document is different from = the simpler <commit> operation as defined in [RFC6241] (which is = equivalent to a simple copy-config = operation)."

 

And shorter = alternative would be to underline that the <commit> operation is = different from RFC6241 and point to 4.2.7.11.

 

What do you = think?

 

Best = regards,

Dylan = Sadoun = <= o:p>

 

Orange = Restricted

 

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