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Re: [Netconf] Anyone want just Configured Subscriptions?

Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> Sun, 08 July 2018 16:26 UTC

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From: Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com>
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2018 09:25:59 -0700
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To: Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com>
Cc: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>, "Eric Voit (evoit)" <evoit=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Netconf <netconf@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Netconf] Anyone want just Configured Subscriptions?
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On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 9:05 AM, Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com> wrote:

> Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 08, 2018 at 09:58:07AM +0200, Martin Bjorklund wrote:
> > > Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You mean <start-all-configured-subscriptions> I think.
> > >
> > > Yes.
> > >
> >
> > If you do this, why does the client, after receiving a call home, not
> > simply create dynamic subscriptions? ;-)
>
> Well, the configured subscription is needed anyway in order for the
> device to call home, so having the client create all configured
> subscriptions as dynamic subscriptions as well doesn't seem quite
> right.
>
>
It is quite possible that multiple RPC operations are needed to get the
session
started, such as reading the YANG library, and that the client
is not ready to receive notifications as soon as the session is started.
So an <activate-configured-sessions> operation may help.



> But if the WG agrees that it is ok to send <notification> directly,
> this issue goes away.
>
>
Sitting idle is definitely OK.
Accepting notifications right away is OK as an implementation feature
outside the standard.


> /martin
>

Andy

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