Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity
Mahesh Jethanandani <mjethanandani@gmail.com> Wed, 15 May 2019 21:33 UTC
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Subject: Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity
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> On May 15, 2019, at 3:24 AM, Jonathan Hansford <jonathan@hansfords.net> wrote: > > Kent, > > I don't think Erratum 5397 should be deleted. Though the original section 7.8 makes no mention of confirmed commits, section 7.9 does, but does not differentiate between a vanilla confirmed commit and a persistent confirmed commit. Since a persistent confirmed commit is still a type of confirmed commit, without clarification the second paragraph of the description would seem to apply. I would agree. > > With the diff, should that be against the original text or the original erratum? The diff is building on top of the original erratum. I would think a diff w.r.t. to the original erratum would make sense. > > Thanks, > > Jonathan > > > On 14/05/2019 19:45:12, "Kent Watsen" <kent@watsen.net <mailto:kent@watsen.net>> wrote: > >> >>> So I need to contact the RFC Editor to correct Erratum 5397, with the relevant text in sections 7.8 and 7.9 being changed to something like: >>> >>> 7.8: "If a NETCONF server receives a <close-session> request while processing a confirmed commit (Section 8.4) for that session, unless the confirmed commit is a persistent confirmed commit, it MUST restore the configuration to its state before the confirmed commit was issued. A persistent confirmed commit MUST survive session termination." >>> >>> 7.9: "If a NETCONF server receives a <kill-session> request while processing a confirmed commit (Section 8.4) for the session to be killed, unless the confirmed commit is a persistent confirmed commit, it MUST restore the configuration to its state before the confirmed commit was issued. A persistent confirmed commit MUST survive session termination." >> >> Ideally, Errata 5397 is deleted (because I think that it's clear that Section 8.4 overrides the 7.8 behavior) but, if we have to patch the errata, I might suggests: >> >> For Section 7.8 >> OLD (in RFC 6241) >> >> The server will release any locks >> and resources associated with the session and gracefully close any >> associated connections. >> >> NEW: >> >> The server will release any locks >> and resources, associated with the session and gracefully close any >> associated connections. As an exception to the previous sentence, if >> the session is processing a persistent confirmed commit (Section 8.4), >> the resources necessary for supporting confirmed commit are not released. >> >> For Section 7.9: >> OLD (in RFC 6241) >> >> If a NETCONF server receives a <kill-session> request while >> processing a confirmed commit (Section 8.4), it MUST restore the >> configuration to its state before the confirmed commit was issued. >> >> NEW: >> What you have above seems fine, though I'd leave off the last sentence. >> >> >>> I also need to contact the RFC Editor to correct Erratum 3821 to change: >>> >>> If the session issuing a sequence of one or more confirmed commits is >>> terminated for any reason before the confirm timeout expires, the server >>> MUST restore the configuration to its state before the sequence of >>> confirmed commits was issued, unless the last confirmed commit also >>> included a <persist> element. >>> >>> If the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout >>> expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its state >>> before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued. >>> >>> to something like: >>> >>> If the session issuing a sequence of one or more confirmed commits is >>> terminated for any reason before the confirm timeout expires, the server >>> MUST restore the configuration to its state before the sequence of >>> confirmed commits was issued, unless the confirmed commit is a >>> persistent confirmed commit. >>> >>> If the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout >>> expires, unless a persistent confirmed commit is in progress, the >>> server MUST restore the configuration to its state before the >>> sequence of confirmed commits was issued. >>> >>> A persistent confirmed commit MUST survive session termination. >>> >> >> This seems okay but, again, I'd leave out the last sentence. >> >> >> Side note: huge errata are hard to read without a diff. If a lot of text, then the NEW (or the NOTES) should include a diff highlighting exactly what changed. >> >> Kent // contributor >> >> >> >>> Are those errata OK? >>> >> > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> <x-msg://76/#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>_______________________________________________ > netconf mailing list > netconf@ietf.org <mailto:netconf@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netconf <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netconf> Mahesh Jethanandani mjethanandani@gmail.com
- [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity Jonathan Hansford
- Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity Kent Watsen
- Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity Andy Bierman
- Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity Jonathan Hansford
- Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity Kent Watsen
- Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity Jonathan Hansford
- Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity Kent Watsen
- Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity Andy Bierman
- Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity Andy Bierman
- Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity jonathan
- Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity Andy Bierman
- Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity tom petch
- Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity Andy Bierman
- Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity Andy Bierman
- Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity Kent Watsen
- Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity Andy Bierman
- Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity Jonathan Hansford
- Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity Kent Watsen
- Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity Jonathan Hansford
- Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity Andy Bierman
- Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity Kent Watsen
- Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity Kent Watsen
- Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity Andy Bierman
- Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity Andy Bierman
- Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity Andy Bierman