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Re: [netconf] Regarding 108 adoption hums

Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> Fri, 07 August 2020 08:59 UTC

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From: Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: [netconf] Regarding 108 adoption hums
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Hi chairs,

I think this is an interesting approach to determining whether there is interest in a number of drafts at the same time, and I agree with you that a hum at a working group meeting means nothing without confirming the opinion on the mailing list.

But I'm worried that you may be introducing yet another piece of process into how we process documents.

The adoption poll, itself, is not necessary if it is obvious to the chairs that a draft is within charter and has support [RFC7221]. But in addition to the poll, we also have somehow introduced an IPR poll at adoption time (while I can see the merits of being explicit about IPR, and we have seen one or two people attempt to wriggle out of their responsibilities, it seems unnecessary to serialize the two calls). Now you appear to be introducing an additional step to test "adoption suitability".

Can I urge you (strongly? :-) to consider the responses to you adoption suitability tests and, if they are solid, to move straight to adoption without making the working group go though a prolonged series of polls. We would, I think, prefer to get on with the work!

Best,
Adrian

-----Original Message-----
From: netconf <netconf-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Kent Watsen
Sent: 05 August 2020 23:13
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Subject: [netconf] Regarding 108 adoption hums


NETCONF WG,


The Chairs & AD discussed the results of the various adoption hums conducted during the 108 meeting.  There is a sense that the results didn’t adequately determine if the drafts should be adopted.  In particular, it wasn’t clear if the hums reflected a general desire to solve the problem or support for the particular draft.

As such, we’ve decided to send subsequent emails for each draft, or set of drafts if appropriate, to solicit input on following questions:

    1) is the problem important for the NETCONF WG to solve?
    2) is the draft a suitable basis for the work?


NETCONF Chairs




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