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[netconf] Re: privcand: explicit 'rebase' in 4.7.1.1. <update>

"James Cumming (Nokia)" <james.cumming@nokia.com> Thu, 24 October 2024 03:07 UTC

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From: "James Cumming (Nokia)" <james.cumming@nokia.com>
To: tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com>, "dylan.sadoun@orange.com" <dylan.sadoun@orange.com>, Kent Watsen <kent+ietf@watsen.net>
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Thank you both for the feedback.  I will add a definition into the -06 version that I promise will not involve the explanation of the evolution of country monetary systems.



From: tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com>
Date: Thursday, 17 October 2024 at 22:53
To: dylan.sadoun@orange.com <dylan.sadoun@orange.com>, James Cumming (Nokia) <james.cumming@nokia.com>, Kent Watsen <kent+ietf@watsen.net>
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Subject: Re: privcand: explicit 'rebase' in 4.7.1.1. <update>

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From: dylan.sadoun@orange.com <dylan.sadoun@orange.com>
Sent: 14 October 2024 16:16

Hello

I am no native English speaker but I believe ‘rebase’ is not a common English word, it has multiple subtle ‘technology-related meaning’, and its git meaning is often misunderstood. It is used once in the draft in 4.7.1.1. <update> and is not defined:

“The <update> operation triggers a rebase of the private candidate configuration against the running configuration.”

<tp>
I see no such word in my Collins English dictionary.  English English is my native language and it is not a word I would use in common parlance.  To me it conveys a sense of starting again as with the German currency in the 1920s after a period of high inflation, the value of the German mark was redefined in terms of other currencies, it was given a new base.

But this is technical stuff and I have often been frustrated by the redefinition of English words as technical terms which ride roughshod over the semantics.  Here I can guess a meaning but would want the I-D author to spell it out.

One guess would be that it means that a new private candidate is created by this action and that the old one is discarded.  But that is a guess:-(  Why not just say that?

Tom Petch

I think it would be clearer to explicit a bit, e.g.:

“The <update> operation triggers a rebase of the private candidate configuration against the running configuration: items are merged from the running configuration into the private candidate configuration, resolving conflicts depending on the chosen resolution method, as detailed in 4.6.3. Conflict resolution.”

What do you think?

Cordialement / Regards.

Dylan SADOUN
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