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Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity

Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> Wed, 12 June 2019 21:37 UTC

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From: Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 14:36:45 -0700
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To: Kent Watsen <kent+ietf@watsen.net>
Cc: "netconf@ietf.org" <netconf@ietf.org>, Mahesh Jethanandani <mjethanandani@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [netconf] RFC 6241 Ambiguity
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Hi,

I think (c) or (d) is OK.
I would object to (a) or (b).
Adding a MUST in an Errata would only be OK if it was unanimous that was
the original intent.

Andy



On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 1:16 PM Kent Watsen <kent+ietf@watsen.net> wrote:

>
> Hi Andy,
>
> I object to changing RFC 6241 with an Errata if it attempts to enforce
> protocol behavior
> that the original RFC does not actually specify.  (c) is correct for an
> Errata because the original RFC
> is under-specified.  Or perhaps: (d) 'persist' MAY span reboots
>
>
> It sounds like we're in agreement.  Are you objecting to something I wrote
> in particular?
>
> Kent // contributor
>
>
>

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