Re: [netconf] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf-netconf-netconf-event-notifications-20: (with DISCUSS)

Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org> Wed, 15 May 2019 20:36 UTC

Return-Path: <rdd@cert.org>
X-Original-To: netconf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: netconf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7352F120116; Wed, 15 May 2019 13:36:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.001
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cert.org
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XeIeC3SC4eUo; Wed, 15 May 2019 13:36:42 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from taper.sei.cmu.edu (taper.sei.cmu.edu [147.72.252.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 232AC12010F; Wed, 15 May 2019 13:36:42 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from delp.sei.cmu.edu (delp.sei.cmu.edu [10.64.21.31]) by taper.sei.cmu.edu (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id x4FKad9S000442; Wed, 15 May 2019 16:36:39 -0400
DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 taper.sei.cmu.edu x4FKad9S000442
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cert.org; s=yc2bmwvrj62m; t=1557952599; bh=vBczDnBBnRhuL+vZ5+nNiPmU/NE11TkX9AJKmXPyD44=; h=From:To:CC:Subject:Date:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=YGfseEy45aWeOHxSrMe2pNeonLZd189lr717bOMhvru9JQfJtopCO6rYqgv5nvdE2 VWVhxb2VMcErGnRbMvlNP+C13n/kXqTNYVkf5UeLOWkARWzWdvvdebG32K733sc2Pa WRMqzfS3opiKQ4RQkD+qntUP36lT5ZWaAMaFX6Zg=
Received: from CASCADE.ad.sei.cmu.edu (cascade.ad.sei.cmu.edu [10.64.28.248]) by delp.sei.cmu.edu (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id x4FKab3f026898; Wed, 15 May 2019 16:36:37 -0400
Received: from MARATHON.ad.sei.cmu.edu ([10.64.28.250]) by CASCADE.ad.sei.cmu.edu ([10.64.28.248]) with mapi id 14.03.0439.000; Wed, 15 May 2019 16:36:37 -0400
From: Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org>
To: "Eric Voit (evoit)" <evoit@cisco.com>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
CC: "draft-ietf-netconf-netconf-event-notifications@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-netconf-netconf-event-notifications@ietf.org>, Kent Watsen <kent+ietf@watsen.net>, "netconf-chairs@ietf.org" <netconf-chairs@ietf.org>, "netconf@ietf.org" <netconf@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf-netconf-netconf-event-notifications-20: (with DISCUSS)
Thread-Index: AQHVC1UMIURW2jHBikWXRDs3ThzXMKZs536A//+9K0A=
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 20:36:37 +0000
Message-ID: <359EC4B99E040048A7131E0F4E113AFC01B3365E93@marathon>
References: <155794878921.30587.14812046146231301278.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <e6ad880c702c4084a68da513c1a93982@XCH-RTP-013.cisco.com>
In-Reply-To: <e6ad880c702c4084a68da513c1a93982@XCH-RTP-013.cisco.com>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
x-originating-ip: [10.64.22.6]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
MIME-Version: 1.0
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/netconf/nqA4JdfqtYxkh4Y9MDtPK9V2sA8>
Subject: Re: [netconf] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf-netconf-netconf-event-notifications-20: (with DISCUSS)
X-BeenThere: netconf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: NETCONF WG list <netconf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/netconf>, <mailto:netconf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/netconf/>
List-Post: <mailto:netconf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:netconf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netconf>, <mailto:netconf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 20:36:45 -0000


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Voit (evoit) [mailto:evoit@cisco.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 4:34 PM
> To: Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org>; The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
> Cc: draft-ietf-netconf-netconf-event-notifications@ietf.org; Kent Watsen
> <kent+ietf@watsen.net>; netconf-chairs@ietf.org; netconf@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf-netconf-netconf-event-
> notifications-20: (with DISCUSS)
> 
> Hi Roman,
> 
> Thanks for the review.   A thought in-line...
> 
> > From: Roman Danyliw, May 15, 2019 3:33 PM
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > DISCUSS:
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > An easy to fix issue.
> >
> > Section 8.  I agree with the brevity of this section as the more
> > detailed considerations can be found in [draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-
> notifications].
> > [draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications] has a similar statement
> > about buggy subscribers, but also makes a SHOULD statement about
> > operators monitoring for odd behavior.  This text doesn’t include this
> > monitoring recommendation but does explicitly discuss terminating
> > sessions.  Could the text in these two sections please be reconciled.
> Perhaps with a reference such as:
> >
> > “This document does not introduce additional Security Considerations
> > for dynamic subscriptions beyond those discussed in
> > [draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed- notifications].  In particular for NETCONF
> subscribers …<use the current text> ”
> 
> I think what you are looking for is something like:
> "This document does not introduce additional Security Considerations for
> dynamic subscriptions beyond those discussed in [draft-ietf-netconf-
> subscribed-notifications].  But there is one consideration worthy of more
> refinement based on the connection oriented nature of the NETCONF
> protocol.  Specifically, if a buggy or compromised NETCONF subscriber sends
> a number of "establish-subscription" requests, then these subscriptions
> accumulate and may use up system resources. In such a situation,
> subscriptions MAY be terminated by terminating the underlying NETCONF
> session... "

Works for me (and better than what I proposed).  Thank you for this new text.

Roman