[netconf] Re: [netmod] Re: Default statements on udp-client-server groupings
Kent Watsen <kent+ietf@watsen.net> Fri, 20 September 2024 15:02 UTC
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Can folks please chime in on this discussion to help bring it to a close? I rescinded my AUTH48 “approval” for the tcp-client-server draft pending the outcome of this discussion. PS: I see that Thomas CC-ed NETMOD, which makes sense given a potential update to rfc8407bis. Kent > On Sep 18, 2024, at 2:52 AM, Thomas.Graf@swisscom.com wrote: > > Dear Kent, Andy and Alex, > > I think Alex statementhttps://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/netconf/5Yaiom0B0lDTeSPOvgNfPIEFvBw/, Andy's feedback and guidelines in https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8407#section-4.4 resp.https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis-15#section-4.4 makes perfectly sense and I don't see why we should do else. As an author, I suggest to add in section 4 of draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis based on the conclusion of this discussion guidelines on reusable YANG groupings. > > Best wishes > Thomas > > From: Kent Watsen <kent+ietf@watsen.net <mailto:kent+ietf@watsen.net>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2024 3:12 AM > To: Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com <mailto:andy@yumaworks.com>> > Cc: netconf@ietf.org <mailto:netconf@ietf.org>; draft-ietf-netconf-udp-client-server.authors@ietf.org <mailto:draft-ietf-netconf-udp-client-server.authors@ietf.org> > Subject: [netconf] Re: Default statements on udp-client-server groupings > > Be aware: This is an external email. > > Hi Andy, > > The main purpose for YANG defaults is ease of use. > If there are less things to configure then the device is easier to use. > Without a default port then this parameter becomes mandatory to configure. > > Alex is trying to maximize lazy binding. That is, as a general statement, unless 100% sure, groupings should never specify the “default” or “mandatory” statements, leaving it to terminal “uses” statements to specify. His comment raises to the level of something that could be an addition to rfc8407bis. > > Thoughts? > > Kent > > _______________________________________________ > netmod mailing list -- netmod@ietf.org <mailto:netmod@ietf.org> > To unsubscribe send an email to netmod-leave@ietf.org <mailto:netmod-leave@ietf.org>
- [netconf] Default statements on udp-client-server… Alex Huang Feng
- [netconf] Re: Default statements on udp-client-se… Thomas.Graf
- [netconf] Re: Default statements on udp-client-se… mohamed.boucadair
- [netconf] Re: Default statements on udp-client-se… Benoit Claise
- [netconf] Re: Default statements on udp-client-se… Qin Wu
- [netconf] Re: Default statements on udp-client-se… Kent Watsen
- [netconf] Re: Default statements on udp-client-se… Andy Bierman
- [netconf] Re: Default statements on udp-client-se… Kent Watsen
- [netconf] Re: Default statements on udp-client-se… Andy Bierman
- [netconf] Re: Default statements on udp-client-se… Kent Watsen
- [netconf] Re: Default statements on udp-client-se… Alex Huang Feng
- [netconf] Re: Default statements on udp-client-se… Kent Watsen
- [netconf] Re: Default statements on udp-client-se… Alex Huang Feng
- [netconf] UDP-noitf ports and other considerations Kent Watsen
- [netconf] Re: Default statements on udp-client-se… Andy Bierman
- [netconf] Re: Default statements on udp-client-se… Thomas.Graf
- [netconf] Re: [netmod] Re: Default statements on … Per Andersson
- [netconf] Re: UDP-noitf ports and other considera… Thomas.Graf
- [netconf] Re: [netmod] Re: Default statements on … Kent Watsen
- [netconf] Re: [netmod] Re: Default statements on … Kent Watsen
- [netconf] Re: [netmod] Re: Default statements on … Andy Bierman
- [netconf] Re: [netmod] Re: Default statements on … Andy Bierman
- [netconf] Re: UDP-noitf ports and other considera… Paolo Lucente
- [netconf] Re: Default statements on udp-client-se… Kent Watsen
- [netconf] Re: [netmod] Re: Default statements on … Andy Bierman
- [netconf] Re: [netmod] Re: Default statements on … Thomas.Graf
- [netconf] Re: [netmod] Re: Re: Default statements… Alex Huang Feng
- [netconf] Re: [netmod] Re: Default statements on … tom petch