Re: [netconf] Adoption poll for tcp-client-server and http-client-server draft

[Juergen Schoenwaelder <[e-mail]>]

Dear Michael,

please note that a configuration model for NETCONF is on the NETCONF
charter for ~5 years. To establish NETCONF session, we obviously need
to establish TCP connections. This is what this work does. It is
entirely orthogonal to draft-scharf-tcpm-yang-tcp, which talks about
TCP protocol engine internals. If the TCPM chair has an issue with a
generic solution to establish TCP connection not being done in TCPM,
we should perhaps just hardcode how to establish TCP connections for
NETCONF and RESTCONF and call it the day and then TCPM can pick up the
pieces and start work on a generic solution.

/js

On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 01:02:49PM +0000, Scharf, Michael wrote:
> Hi Mahesh,
> 
> As chair of the TCPM working group, I believe that the document draft-kwatsen-netconf-tcp-client-server-00 belongs into the TCPM working group. The document is about a generic YANG model for an interface for TCP "for an SSH, TLS, or HTTP based application". I fail to see a reason why such a generic TCP model should be done in NETCONF.
> 
> Thus, as a chair of TCPM, I object to adoption in NETCONF.
> 
> I also want to note that it would have been possible to send a note to the TCPM list prior to starting an adoption call, as the TCPM list is monitored by many TCP implementers who could be affected by such a YANG model. YANG models can be used in different use cases. TCPM has a tradition of being very open to presentations from other working groups if they relate to TCP. I have added the TCPM list in CC.
> 
> As an individual contributor to the IETF, I happen to be an author of draft-scharf-tcpm-yang-tcp, which actually was submitted last year. Given that different working groups seem to be involved, I believe that it would make sense to join efforts. Shouldn't we have a chat on the best next steps?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: netconf <[e-mail]> On Behalf Of Mahesh
> > Jethanandani
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 12:17 PM
> > To: Netconf <[e-mail]>
> > Subject: [netconf] Adoption poll for tcp-client-server and http-client-server
> > draft
> > 
> > This is the start of a two week poll for WG adoption of the two drafts:
> > 
> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kwatsen-netconf-tcp-client-server-00
> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kwatsen-netconf-http-client-server-00
> > 
> > Please indicate your support for or any objections you might have for
> > adopting the two drafts as WG items by April 9.
> > 
> > Mahesh Jethanandani
> > [e-mail]
> > 
> > 
> > 
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