Re: [Netconf] YangPush now

Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Tue, 31 July 2018 18:07 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Netconf] YangPush now
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On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 08:41:24AM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 8:30 AM, Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > Hi think the plan to finish and publish SN + YP + netconf-notifs w/o
> > support for configured subscriptions is ok.  I assume that as soon as
> > these documents are sent to the IESG for publication, the WG
> > immediately starts to work on configured subscriptions for netconf.
> >
> > However, I would have preferred to remove configured subscriptions
> > from SN and YP, b/c I beleive that this would be faster (essentially
> > echoing what Balazs wrote in the first email in this thread).  If we
> > keep configured subscriptions in these docs, they will take additional
> > time to finish b/c the text needs clarifications.
> >
> >
> I agree
>

Yep. And my concerns are with the protocol (-notif) documents, except
some weirdness with the configured subscriptions YANG model, which
messes up the difference between subscription concerns, receiver
concerns, and transport concerns (but perhaps we are moving towards
fixing this in another thread).

/js

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