[Netext] next steps for netext
sgundave at cisco.com (Sri Gundavelli) Sun, 12 April 2009 00:02 UTC
From: "sgundave at cisco.com"
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:02:06 -0700
Subject: [Netext] next steps for netext
In-Reply-To: <7ad6d6db0904111040u653ae77cw888d263676306e2a@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Julien, On Sat, 11 Apr 2009, Julien Laganier wrote: > Hello Sri, > > On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Sri Gundavelli <sgundave at cisco.com> wrote: >> >> [...] >> >>>> So, its possible for the MAG to derive that information from the >>>> network, in many cases, including in 3GPP, as Vijay pointed out >>>> for single attach. >>> >>> This is done by a special L2 message introduced for that - i.e. a change >>> of the host (which is not visible to IETF as it is done at L2 and not L3, >>> but still very real) >> >> We can indeed define a L2 message, allow the network to make that >> decision, or allow it to push policy templates to the terminal. >> >> In any case, changes to host, in the form of application requirement >> or connection manager requirement, or any application layer policy >> push, does not break IETF standards. If some operator wants to install >> such application on the terminal, I wonder why we should have a problem. >> Also, IMO, we are dreaming, if we assume that any operator will qualify >> any host on their network, with out zero software addition. Looking >> at EV-DO deployments today, all operators ship connection manager >> software. > > I don't know about EV-DO -- But for sure I wasn't dreaming the many > times I accessed an HSPA network with my off-the-shelf Linux laptop > (i.e. _with_ zero software addition.) > Sure, the off-the-shelf node can certainly connect to the network over HSPA. But in the presence of multiple access networks, say WiFI & HSPA, wonder if it has the intelligence to decide for you which networks it should use, with or without client mobile IP. If yes, beyond the driver for the 3g card, there has to be some software (connection mgr) which has the access preferences. I'm not sure, how that module can be eliminated. Regards Sri
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