[netext] Review of I-D: draft-ietf-netext-pmip6-qos-02

Basavaraj Patil <bpatil1@gmail.com> Mon, 13 May 2013 19:19 UTC

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Subject: [netext] Review of I-D: draft-ietf-netext-pmip6-qos-02
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Below are my review comments for the I-D:draft-ietf-netext-pmip6-qos-02 (QoS
Support for Proxy Mobile IPv6)


1. "Using the QoS option, the local mobility anchor and the
   mobile access gateway can exchange available QoS attributes and
   associated values."

QoS for a session or subscriber or group of sessions? Not clear from
this statement.

2. "This enables QoS policing and labeling of packets
   to enforce QoS differentiation on the path between the local mobility
   anchor and the mobile access gateway."

So is the objective primarily to enable QoS on the MAG<->LMA path? Or
is the intent to deliver QoS information to the MAG for use on the
access link? Or both?

3. "Furthermore, making QoS
   parameters available on the MAG enables mapping these parameters to
   QoS rules being specific to the access technology which operates
   below the mobile access gateway."

Would this mapping be defined elsewhere? As an example how would you
translate the QoS parameters defined between the MAG<->LMA for use on
an 802.11 air interface? Who would define this mapping (if it needs to
be specified).

4. "Current
   standardization effort considers strong QoS classification and
   enforcement for cellular radio access technologies."

What standardization effort is being referred to here?

5. "QoS policies are
   typically controlled by a policy control function, ...."

The I-D assumes a very specific network architecture (in this case
3GPP EPS). It would be better to indicate the applicability or

6. "Policy control and QoS differentiation for access to the mobile
   operator network through alternative non-cellular access technologies
   is not yet considered, even though some of these access technologies
   are able to support QoS by appropriate traffic prioritization

Not sure how this is relevant in the scope of this I-D.

7. "... alternative
   radio access technologies, such as IEEE802.16 "

Would be good to include EV-DO, SCDMA as other technologies as well...

8. " whereas inter-working with the cellular
   architecture to establish QoS policies in alternative access networks
   has not been focussed on so far."

The WG is better off defining a mechanism that is not specific to the
current version of 3GPP standards or access technologies being

9. "...has been identified as
   promising alternative technology to complement cellular radio

It already complements cellular access.. Why is it considered

10. " This specification
   does not depend on the approach how the cellular specific QoS
   policies have been configured on the LMA. "

Is there not a need to have QoS for flows between a MAG and LMA given
that an MN may have multiple flows between a MAG<->LMA pair?

11. "The MN is first connected to the LTE network and having a multimedia
   session such as a video call with appropriate QoS parameters set by
   the policy control function. "

What QoS policies are configured at the MAG/LMA for such a flow by the
PCF? And how are these applied?

12. "The MN is first attaching to
   the Wi-Fi network.  During attachment process, the LMA, which may be
   in communication with Policy Control Function (this step of the
   process is out of the scope of this document), provides the QoS
   parameters to the MAG piggy-backing the PMIP signaling (i.e.

Several assumptions being made here. It could also be the case that
when the MN attaches to a WiFI AP which has QoS support, it could
request specific QoS already for a session. That is not considered

13. Sec 3.5 describes QCI, ARP, AMBR, GBR etc. which are all 3GPP
specific for QoS. It is not clear how these are incorporated into the
signaling between PMIP6 nodes and how they are mapped/applied.

3GPP has specified all these QoS types. If the PMIP6 elements,
MAG/LMA, do not support QoS signaling does it imply that 3GPP networks
will be unable to use QoS if PMIP6 is used as the mobility protocol?

14. The I-D specifies various QoS options defined in 3GPP such as
AMBR, GBR, etc. in sections 6.x. 3GPP may continue to expand or
deprecate these options. Why not simply follow the 3GPP defined QoS
parameters and allocate a generic 3GPP option instead of assigning a
type value to each one of these by IANA?

15. The I-D makes assumptions about interacting with a policy
controller for obtaining the QoS parameters. What happens in the
absence of such a PCF element? Can the LMA itself be configured to
allocate QoS to a session?

16. And lastly why not simply specify DSCP and the QoS for the traffic
between the MAG and LMA instead of worrying about the mapping to
access technology types and interaction with different elements in the