Re: [netext] Access Network Information option for Proxy Mobile IPv6
Behcet Sarikaya <behcetsarikaya@yahoo.com> Fri, 15 July 2011 16:06 UTC
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Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:06:15 -0700
From: Behcet Sarikaya <behcetsarikaya@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [netext] Access Network Information option for Proxy Mobile IPv6
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> > I reviewed this I-D and have a few questions: > > 1. Why does the LMA need to obtain the access network information from the > MAG? Can it not obtain the same from the AAA server with which it has an > interface? > The MN has to authenticate via the AN to the AAA server prior to PMIP6 > being triggered. So I would expect that AAA has the information about the > access network which could then be obtained by the LMA. > > 2. Why does the binding cache at the LMA and/or MAG need to store the > information carried in the ANI option? I don¹t see how it would be used > from the document. > > 3. The statement : "In access systems where the mobile access gateway is > attached to a micro-mobility domain such as IEEE 802.11 WLAN > domain, the DHCP relay agent function in that micro-mobility > domain may be configured to add the access network information in > DHCP option (82), which is the DHCP Relay Agent Information option > [RFC3046]. The mobile access gateway may learn the access network > information from this option." > Seems like a lot of handwaving. Is there a DHCP option for carrying access > network information? > If you want this info to be carried in option 82, I would think that there > is a need to specify this in the DHC WG. BTW Option 82 is DHCPv4 option, RFC 3046 defines DHCPv4 Relay Agent Options. > > 4. Can you give me an example of how the LMA would classify traffic or > treat Mns differently based on the information carried in the ANI option? > The statement: > "Policy systems in mobility architectures such as PCC [TS23203] and ANDSF > [TS23402] in 3GPP system allow configuration of policy rules with > conditions based on the access network information. For example, the > service treatment for the mobile node's traffic may be different when > they are attached to a access network owned by the home operator than > when owned by a roaming partner. The service treatment can also be > different based on the configured SSID in case of IEEE 802.11 based > access networks. > " > Is IMO not very realistic. Way back 2008, we had a draft which is relevant on this: http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-xia-netlmm-mpls-tunnel-00.txt and in 2009 this one: http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-xia-netext-qos-00.txt > > 5. And lastly consider the following scenario: > The LMA knows the identity of the MAG from which it receives BUs. If a MAG > is associated with a wifi AP then the LMA already knows (or can be > configured) about the MAGs AN details. And hence there is really no reason > to send that information in every BU. The LMA is already aware whether a > MAG is viewed as one that belongs to the home network or a visited > network. Hence I don¹t see the need for explicit signaling. > > -Raj > > > On 7/13/11 4:33 PM, "ext Sri Gundavelli" <sgundave@cisco.com> wrote: > > >Please comment on the draft related to carrying Access Network Information > >to the LMA. > > > > > >7. Access Network Information Option for Proxy Mobile IPv6 10 Mins > > I-D: > >http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-gundavelli-netext-access-network-option-01.tx > >t > > Presenter: Jouni Korhonen > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >netext mailing list > >netext@ietf.org > >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netext > > _______________________________________________ > netext mailing list > netext@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netext >
- [netext] FW: New Version Notification for draft-g… Sri Gundavelli
- [netext] Access Network Information option for Pr… Sri Gundavelli
- Re: [netext] Access Network Information option fo… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [netext] Access Network Information option fo… Sri Gundavelli
- Re: [netext] Access Network Information option fo… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [netext] Access Network Information option fo… Sri Gundavelli
- Re: [netext] Access Network Information option fo… Basavaraj.Patil
- Re: [netext] Access Network Information option fo… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [netext] Access Network Information option fo… Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [netext] Access Network Information option fo… Sri Gundavelli
- Re: [netext] Access Network Information option fo… jouni korhonen
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